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re: Dream Heavyweight Boxing Matches
Posted on 8/2/23 at 7:18 am to JackDempsey
Posted on 8/2/23 at 7:18 am to JackDempsey
Prime Tyson was the best IMO
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Posted on 8/2/23 at 7:40 am to LSUlefty
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Prime Tyson was the best IMO
Prime Tyson? He was 24 years old when he got knocked out by Buster Douglas. He was the champion for only 4 years. That had to be the shortest prime in the history of boxing.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 9:11 am to JackDempsey
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Posted on 8/2/23 at 11:09 am to bamameister
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Prime Tyson? He was 24 years old when he got knocked out by Buster Douglas. He was the champion for only 4 years. That had to be the shortest prime in the history of boxing.
Cus had died and he fired Rooney. He showed up in Tokyo overweight with his entourage in his corner. He then went to prison after that. Before that fight he was the greatest heavyweight of all time.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 12:02 pm to LSUlefty
Nah. Prime Tyson was very scary and one of the best but he wasn’t on the same level with the prime versions of guys like Ali, Foreman, or Lewis.
In addition to his legal troubles, Tyson also had the misfortune of ruling the division at a weak moment in time. Not a lot of competition there… and one of the competitors, Holyfield, outclassed him anyway.
Yes. Prime Holyfield beats Prime Tyson. I just don’t see how Tyson can be propped up as the best heavyweight when his Kryptonite was the Cruiserweight champ at the time.
Time has been very kind to Tyson’s reputation.
In addition to his legal troubles, Tyson also had the misfortune of ruling the division at a weak moment in time. Not a lot of competition there… and one of the competitors, Holyfield, outclassed him anyway.
Yes. Prime Holyfield beats Prime Tyson. I just don’t see how Tyson can be propped up as the best heavyweight when his Kryptonite was the Cruiserweight champ at the time.
Time has been very kind to Tyson’s reputation.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 12:07 pm to LSUlefty
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Before that fight he was the greatest heavyweight of all time
Fellows, we have a true boxing historian here.
For Tyson, fighting Michael Spinks or Cassius Clay, not much difference. I am sure Clay would be frozen with fear.
Joe Louis, Foreman, Liston, Lewis, et all, no problem for Iron Mike with his incredible stamina and mental strength in the face of adversity.
This post was edited on 8/2/23 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 8/2/23 at 12:22 pm to JackDempsey
You probably weren't even born yet
Posted on 8/2/23 at 12:54 pm to LSUlefty
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Cus had died and he fired Rooney. He showed up in Tokyo overweight with his entourage in his corner. He then went to prison after that. Before that fight he was the greatest heavyweight of all time.
Buster was a fair boxer. Fair. Muhammad Ali was the greatest boxer in the heavyweight division ever. He would have destroyed his timing with a left jab and simply danced away. Then he starts putting the right cross behind that jab in a nano-second. We could ask Liston, Foreman, Shavers, how that feels.
And by the way, a 24-year-old Tyson must fight a 24-year-old Ali. When he would and could dance all night.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 4:47 pm to bamameister
Prime Ali would’ve completely frustrated Tyson as he picked him apart.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 5:55 pm to LSUlefty
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Cus had died and he fired Rooney. He showed up in Tokyo overweight with his entourage in his corner. He then went to prison after that. Before that fight he was the greatest heavyweight of all time
I agree with this and was going to post something similar. With cus and Rooney coaching Tyson had more discipline. He threw more combinations and his head movement was awesome. After he fired Rooney, he surrounded himself with yes men. He quit moving and went for the knockout punch.
But a prime Tyson with cus coaching him would be tough to beat. If prime Ali weathered the first couple of rounds, Ali wins.
Posted on 8/2/23 at 6:58 pm to thumperpait
BS. Foreman destroys him. Not beats him, destroys him. Holyfield probably still beats him because he had him figured out. He knew how to smother him and use jabs. Prime Holmes? Gives Mike all kinds of fits. Cassius Clay? Please. He has a field day with him.
Now Frazier? That would be a real fight, a tossup because they are so similar.
Marciano had a style that would work against Tyson as well. He wasn't built on speed so he didn't have to be fast.
Now Frazier? That would be a real fight, a tossup because they are so similar.
Marciano had a style that would work against Tyson as well. He wasn't built on speed so he didn't have to be fast.
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