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re: Drake Maye supposedly offered $5M by a few schools to portal

Posted on 12/20/22 at 7:19 pm to
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
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Posted on 12/20/22 at 7:19 pm to
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Listen, prick, I'm not a Drake Maye fanboy like you, so those reasons are something I wasn't considering. I also asked why a college player would pass on that kind of money, not specifically this dude. The one being short-sighted is you. $5 million is just setting the baseline NIL market for college stars.



Being aware of one of the biggest stars in college football is being a fan boy? Good to know.

For someone barking loud, you obviously know nothing about the topic.

Posted by StupidBinder
Jawja
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 12/20/22 at 7:26 pm to
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neither of those schools are paying 5 million for the qb.


Well, no schools should be paying any player $5 million to play for them for one year…we’ve already crossed into the realm of the absurd
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81360 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 7:31 pm to
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Being aware of one of the biggest stars in college football is being a fan boy? Good to know.

For someone barking loud, you obviously know nothing about the topic.


So is it clear to anyone else that this dude doesn't actually care about the NIL debate, but is just pissed UNC fan because someone tried to poach his favorite QB?

I'm curious what your thoughts would be on the matter if UNC was the one that was trying to pay Maye $5m to play for them.
This post was edited on 12/20/22 at 7:33 pm
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 12/20/22 at 7:36 pm to
Narduzzi is basically repeating message board rumor. He can’t even name the schools.

And good for the player if he did get offered that money. Narduzzi seems to be making a nice living off football.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35539 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 7:39 pm to
I’m an LSU fan. I don’t care about UNC or Drake Maye.

I also don’t care that he was maybe offered $5 million to leave.

You were aghast that anyone would turn that down. I was saying I understand why he would. I probably would in his situation. I probably wouldn’t in other situations.






Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81360 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 7:42 pm to
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You were aghast that anyone would turn that down. I was saying I understand why he would. I probably would in his situation. I probably wouldn’t in other situations.



Again, knowing intimately how these things work, Drake's bank account still got a nice Christmas bonus from some fine folks in Chapel Hill.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35539 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 7:46 pm to
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knowing intimately how these things work,


Judging by your posts, you don’t know anything about it.

Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81360 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 7:48 pm to
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Judging by your posts, you don’t know anything about it.



Lol, ok champ, keep thinking you have it figured out.

Drake turned down $5m because he loves UNC that much.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35539 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 7:54 pm to
I never said that. Nothing close.

See, you’re too emotional.

You sound like a pro sports fan that’s mad college sports isn’t just a minor league.

Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81360 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 7:55 pm to
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I never said that. Nothing close.

See, you’re too emotional.

You sound like a pro sports fan that’s mad college sports isn’t just a minor league.



What on earth?

You're losing the plot.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
42358 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 8:12 pm to
Im sure Bama is one of them. Maye was committed to play there before flipping to Carolina.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35539 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 8:23 pm to
I’m happy to have a real NIL discussion.

Either about the motivations of players and colleges and their uses of it, or the mechanics of it based on the law, including the recent Supreme Court ruling, the NCAA and what is possible in the future to control and/or curtail it.

Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
7913 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 8:24 pm to
That’s fine. Burrow was projected to be a UDFA 2 years prior and we see how that turned out

Drake Maye is pretty damn middling

I’m not a big box score guy. You have to watch how stats are accumulated and take into consideration the level of competition and complexity of defense that the stats were accumulated against and then have to project to see how that extrapolates out on an NFL field.
This post was edited on 12/20/22 at 8:28 pm
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
7913 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 8:26 pm to
2020 Covid- every team and conference played under a different set of rules

2021 on- NIL, Portal Madness

It’s not the same sport these days and that’s not really all that debatable.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81360 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 8:28 pm to
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It’s not the same sport these days and that’s not really all that debatable.



It's definitely not the same sport, but I just feel hypocritical telling college kids to not take million dollar payments knowing damn well I'd be doing the same thing if I was in there shoes.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35539 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 8:49 pm to
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but I just feel hypocritical telling college kids to not take million dollar payments knowing damn well I'd be doing the same thing if I was in there shoes.



Who is telling them not to take it?

The issue is that there are like 250,000 NCAA athletes (not counting other athletic orgs).

This system benefits less than 1 percent of them, and is currently worse, or will be worse, for everyone else.

And could potentially be worse even for the 1 percent.

This system is based on fan support.

People seem to think that support is a given. It’s not. It can decrease significantly, even to zero.



Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81360 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 8:57 pm to
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The issue is that there are like 250,000 NCAA athletes (not counting other athletic orgs).



And?

It's not $5m but I'm seeing soccer players sign NIL deals with local restaurants.

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This system benefits less than 1 percent of them


Are you under the impression that before NIL, those 1 percenters were on an equal playing field with the 3rd strong OL?

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This system is based on fan support.



Yeah, but not in the way you think.

It's based on TV deals and the revenue from it. TV made college football a billion dollar industry, and the conferences have been smart to make sure the ancillary sports get a piece of those TV dollars. The TV viewership drives up the status of the athletes, which leads to the businesses (national or local) to say "Hey, that person is gaining a social media following because they are on TV, let's see if they will promote our product on their social media."

And it's going deeper than you think. A NAIA basketball player at Xavier-New Orleans signed a NIL deal with PJ's Coffee because he had like 100,000 Tik Tok followers.
This post was edited on 12/20/22 at 8:58 pm
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35539 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:16 pm to
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Yeah, but not in the way you think.


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going deeper than you think




I follow this extremely close. You’re not telling me anything I don’t already know.

Are you insinuating that “fans” don’t watch TV?

College football is not immune to a loss of support.

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And?



I think college athletics has value. All sports. I don’t think of it in purely economic terms.

You obviously do, and that’s fine.

But there are finite dollars. Sports will be cut. Scholarships will be cut. Facilities will suffer.

For the detached sports fan who views it as just entertainment, they probably don’t care.



Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81360 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:20 pm to
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Are you insinuating that “fans” don’t watch TV?



The TV contract prices going up do not directly correlate to viewership numbers.


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But there are finite dollars. Sports will be cut. Scholarships will be cut. Facilities will suffer.



Huh? The schools aren't paying these NIL deals.
This post was edited on 12/20/22 at 9:22 pm
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35539 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 9:31 pm to
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The TV contract prices going up do not directly correlate to viewership numbers.


It plays a role and there is a formula. Eyeballs on screens are ultimately all that matters, although the contracts are futuristic and predictive. If viewership declines it may not catch it until the renewal.


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Huh? The schools aren't paying these NIL deals.



Who do you think is paying them?

Generally boosters. If a big donor is now giving his money to the QB, instead of to TAF for facilities upgrades, then that hurts.

Surely you don’t think actual companies are paying these college athletes for their NIL? I would say that’s the case about 5 percent of the time. The rest is just straight payments from boosters and collectives.
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