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re: Does Miami's win change the narrative of there's too many teams in the playoff?
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:03 am to OKBoomerSooner
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:03 am to OKBoomerSooner
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"The whole season IS the playoff, every game matters" has been a vocal sentiment among fans for many years. It used to be a factor distinguishing college football from other sports. I really enjoy the playoffs, but there's no question this charm of the sport is gone.
Except it didn’t. Teams like 2011 Alabama were gifted title opportunities under the BCS.
Teams like Auburn in 2004 did everything possible and were not given a shot.
Teams like LSU in 2006 were knocked out on a bogus flag being picked up. In what world is that fair and deserving of other teams?
Sometimes it works. Other times it doesn’t or fails miserably.
In the end, college football is absurd for the ridiculous scheduling variability.
At least the NFL may have weak and strong schedules, but nothing close to the variability of college sports.
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Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:06 am to H-Town Tiger
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But more importantly there a good chance Ohio State would have made a 4 team playoff in 2024 at worst they would have been #5-6 probably
Ummm. They were #8 and the only two teams ahead of them that they would have jumped are ASU and Boise State.
They are number 6 at best based on the old system and don’t sniff the 4-team playoff. They were the third highest ranked Big Ten team.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:13 am to CollegeFBRules
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Hated the BCS era. A playoff is by far and away the most objective way to determine a champion
Interesting take from an LSU fan. After all the bitching and moaning about having to play Bama again in 2011, you do realize if a playoff had existed then, that it would have still most likely been LSU vs Bama in the finals? Those two teams were on a whole other level from the rest of college football that year.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:17 am to Geauxgurt
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the only two teams ahead of them that they would have jumped are ASU and Boise State.
I addressed this above but the committee last year was going out of their way to not “punish” teams that lost the CCG (Texas SMU and Penn St) they did not do that in the past with the 4 team playoff. My guess is the 4 team playoff in 2024 would have been Oregon UGA Notre Dame and Texas or Ohio State, probably Texas
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:21 am to QJenk
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I would argue if I'm you are the hottest team when it matters the most. Then you are deserving of being called the best team.
That’s circular logic.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:32 am to samson73103
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you do realize if a playoff had existed then, that it would have still most likely been LSU vs Bama in the finals?
At least Bama would have earned it then.
I like the concept of computers being used to take bias out of the equation (and nonsense like Team A being ahead of Team B for several weeks, only to drop behind them because "now we can see the complete body of work"). I didn't like it being the Top 2 teams only when it put someone in that didn't belong there, or left a team out that deserved a shot.
2004 Auburn never got a chance on the field.
2011 Alabama got a chance but didn't deserve it. They didn't even make the conference championship game--because they lost to the team that did--but made the NCG against that same team. Everyone wants to blame Okie State's loss against Iowa State for the reason Bama got in, but the Cowboys had a better late season win against #10 Oklahoma versus Bama's win against #24 Auburn.
I'll admit--some of it is sour grapes that Bama got a second chance and won, but that's the one time there should have been a human component to the selection. Alabama getting a shot they didn't earn will always be a black eye on the BCS IMO, right there with USC not making it in 2003.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:35 am to SlowFlowPro
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It is basically saying "frick it we want to crown the hottest team late and not the team who was the best all year"
That’s what we’ve been doing. That’s what the NFL pretty much does. It’s how a 9-7 Giants team got to be Super Bowl champs over 16-0 or whatever Patriots.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:37 am to CollegeFBRules
I still think there are too many teams. First off, miami should never have been as low as 10. If you watched their two losses, they dominated and only lost because of Beck's turnovers (six). They shouldn't have dropped too far and be treated like that 2007 lsu team.
8 teams is the right number
8 teams is the right number
This post was edited on 1/1/26 at 9:38 am
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:51 am to Broski
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That running through a landmine feeling throughout the regular season was what made college football so fun. That doesn't exist anymore. The regular season is largely meaningless now.
Tell that to 10-2 Vandy.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:59 am to Cowboyfan89
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Alabama getting a shot they didn't earn will always be a black eye on the BCS IMO, right there with USC not making it in 2003.
Don’t forget Florida St over Miami in 2000 and Nebraska in 2001 after losing their last game 62-36. For that matter Florida St over Ohio State or Kansas St in 1998.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 10:02 am to CollegeFBRules
I've always wanted the playoff to expand. Sixteen teams is the best number, I think.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 10:08 am to Saint Alfonzo
We’ll be at 32 within a decade. Unbalanced schedules makes it impossible to have any real clue as to who are the top teams. College football has been a fraud sport because they used polls to decide who was best. What are polls? Nothing but opinion and this board proves opinions are varied. Ohio St losing to Miami shows that the polls have been WRONG all season. Yet we made a playoff based on them.
Right now we can all list the preseason top 10 next year yet and the entire season starts out biased. It’s a joke. Expansion and auto qualifiers will end the polls which is what needs to happen.
Right now we can all list the preseason top 10 next year yet and the entire season starts out biased. It’s a joke. Expansion and auto qualifiers will end the polls which is what needs to happen.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 11:11 am to CollegeFBRules
Upsets are gonna happen. If you expand the playoffs every time there an upset because maybe just maybe a lower seed can win, that's stupid as frick.
The regular season has to matter.
You go something like 8-4 I don't really care if you're capable of pulling a big upset or two in the right day.
The regular season has to matter.
You go something like 8-4 I don't really care if you're capable of pulling a big upset or two in the right day.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 11:20 am to Cowboyfan89
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Alabama getting a shot they didn't earn
Oh but they did earn it. You just have a problem with it because its Bama. Your tears are still delicious even 14 years later
Posted on 1/1/26 at 11:34 am to samson73103
This childish "you're tears are so delicious" argument always cracks me up as a retort. Unlike a lot of people on this forum, I didn't give 2 shits about it 2 weeks after the game. Life goes on.
That doesn't mean I can't point out the fact that Alabama didn't deserve to be in that game, regardless of the outcome of the game. Oklahoma didn't deserve to be in the NCG in 2003. Nebraska didn't in 2001.
Take the BCS and apply it to the CFP and you have a winner. But the fact that there are multiple examples of teams making the BCSNCG that didn't deserve it makes the whole "the regular season matters" argument that people love to use about that time laughable. The regular season didn't matter when the BCS put Nebraska, Oklahoma, and Alabama in the NCG.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 11:59 am to Cowboyfan89
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Alabama didn't deserve to be in that game,
Then who did? Bama was clearly the best team not named LSU.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:10 pm to OKBoomerSooner
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The whole season IS the playoff, every game matters" has been a vocal sentiment among fans for many years.
That only works when everyone plays everyone else.
Like the Premier League.
Any championship that is voted on is not real.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
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It is basically saying "frick it we want to crown the hottest team late and not the team who was the best all year"
Arguably the hottest team in the country got left out for a team that finished the season by losing by 3 touchdowns.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
no because any year a team ranked 15th ish could beat a top 4 team on a given day...its football......whose to say in 2015 that the #12-15 team couldnt have beaten Michigan state??
Miami's run means nothing except they were worthy of being in
Miami's run means nothing except they were worthy of being in
Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:36 pm to StansberryRules
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Upsets are gonna happen.
I’m not sure I’d consider Miami’s win an upset.
That’s the big positive with the playoff. Because of the sheer number of teams and unevenness of schedules, it’s really hard to tell which teams are actually the best.
Ohio State played Texas, Indiana, and Miami this year and looked incredibly pedestrian in all three games.
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