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re: Does anyone actually prefer the playoffs over BCS
Posted on 12/18/25 at 8:37 pm to Epic Cajun
Posted on 12/18/25 at 8:37 pm to Epic Cajun
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By the time that November rolled around you had basically only 8 relevant teams.
So what you're saying is the season was the playoff? Interesting...
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Posted on 12/18/25 at 9:03 pm to RollTide1987
That's what I miss. Started watching during the Zook years and at least we still got to play spoiler for UGA.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 9:59 pm to JamalMurry27
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why people would prefer Pre-BCS
The playoff is better but conference expansion ruined it IMO. The best thing that could happen is the conferences split up under a non NCAA organization. Make conference membership required to get into the playoff.
Big Ten: Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Purdue, Mich, Mich St, Ohio St, Penn St, ND
SEC: Florida, Georgia, Tenn, Kentucky, Auburn, Alabama, Miss, Miss St, LSU, Vanderbilt
SWC: Arkansas, Tamu, Texas, Oklahoma, Ok St, Texas Tech, Houston, Baylor, TCU, SMU
Big 12: Utah, BYU, Colorado, Missouri, Nebraska, Kansas, Kansas St, Iowa St, Colorado St, Boise St, Nevada, UNLV
Pac 10: Washington, Wash St, Oregon, Oregon St, Cal, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Arizona, Arizona St
ACC: Miami, Florida St, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Clemson, Wake Forest, Duke, North Carolina, NC St, Virginia Tech, Virginia
Big East: Louisville, Cincy, West Virginia, Pitt, Maryland, Rutgers, UCONN, Syracuse, Boston College, Buffalo
Posted on 12/19/25 at 2:12 am to JamalMurry27
I can handle the playoffs but NIL and transfers have killed the bowl games. I don't mind a Western Michigan vs Nevada game in the bullshite.com bowl on a Thursday night at all.
Posted on 12/19/25 at 8:58 am to CatfishJohn
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If we're going to exclude teams from the opportunity, 4 teams is too few IMO.
Even in the 4 team playoff, there were tremendous mismatch's and blowouts.
2014
Oregon 59 FSU 20
2015
Clemson 37 Oklahoma 17
Alabama 38 Michigan State 0
2016
Clemson 31 Ohio State o
2018
Clemson 30 ND 3
Clemson 44 Alabama 16
2019
LSU 63 Oklahoma 28
LSU 42 Clemson 25
2020
Ohio State 39 Clemson 28
Alabama 52 Ohio State 24
2022
Georgia 65 TCU 7
2024
Ohio State 42 Tenn 17
Penn State 38 SMU 10
Penn State 31 Boise 14
Ohio State 41 Oregon 21
2017 / 2021 /2023 - No blowouts
So for the first 10 years, only 3ish seasons didn't feature a "blowout" meaning there was not parity in the Top 4, and we added 8 extra teams to the list.
Posted on 12/19/25 at 9:08 am to JamalMurry27
The current playoff system does allow for more true meaningful games this time of the year, over the Christmas and New Years holidays, so I like it.
Posted on 12/19/25 at 9:13 am to JamalMurry27
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Does anyone actually prefer the playoffs over BCS
Only fricking idiots
Posted on 12/19/25 at 9:18 am to RollTide1987
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So what you're saying is the season was the playoff? Interesting...
No, what I’m saying is that games for all but 8 teams were irrelevant for a about a third of the season.
A lot of you are conflating two separate things. NIL and unlimited transfers is what “ruined” the bowl season. If we still had the BCS format, but added NIL and unlimited transfers, we’d have literally one relevant post season game.
This post was edited on 12/19/25 at 9:23 am
Posted on 12/19/25 at 9:33 am to TheDeathValley
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Even in the 4 team playoff, there were tremendous mismatch's and blowouts.
So for the first 10 years, only 3ish seasons didn't feature a "blowout" meaning there was not parity in the Top 4, and we added 8 extra teams to the list.
The BCS never had mismatched title tilts
1999 - Florida state 46-29 over VA Tech
2001 - Miami over Nebraska 37-14
2003 - USC over OU 55-19
2006 - Florida over Ohio State 41-14
2007-2008-2009 - all 2 to 3 score games
2011 - Alabama over LSU 21-0
2012 - Alabama over Notre Dame 42-14
2000 - 02 - 04 - 05 - 10 - 13 had good games.
So 60% of the time, the national championship game was a mismatch, but because some of the expanded playoff games were too, we should yearn for the 2 team system.
This post was edited on 12/19/25 at 9:40 am
Posted on 12/19/25 at 10:11 am to The Third Leg
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So 60% of the time, the national championship game was a mismatch, but because some of the expanded playoff games were too, we should yearn for the 2 team system.
Didn't say that - 1 to 2 might have a drop off, 1 to 12 definitely has a drop off.
Posted on 12/19/25 at 10:13 am to MasterAbe1
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I liked 4, and wouldn’t have minded expanding to 6-8
I always like the idea of 6. The top two team get a bye, which gives those teams a reward for what’s likely was an undefeated season and still leaves some value in the regular season. 6 takes care of those teams just on the outside that have great credentials as well, like Georgia in ‘23.
Posted on 12/19/25 at 10:23 am to nick__21
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Big Ten: Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Purdue, Mich, Mich St, Ohio St, Penn St, ND
SEC: Florida, Georgia, Tenn, Kentucky, Auburn, Alabama, Miss, Miss St, LSU, Vanderbilt
SWC: Arkansas, Tamu, Texas, Oklahoma, Ok St, Texas Tech, Houston, Baylor, TCU, SMU
Big 12: Utah, BYU, Colorado, Missouri, Nebraska, Kansas, Kansas St, Iowa St, Colorado St, Boise St, Nevada, UNLV
Pac 10: Washington, Wash St, Oregon, Oregon St, Cal, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Arizona, Arizona St
ACC: Miami, Florida St, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Clemson, Wake Forest, Duke, North Carolina, NC St, Virginia Tech, Virginia
Big East: Louisville, Cincy, West Virginia, Pitt, Maryland, Rutgers, UCONN, Syracuse, Boston College, Buffalo
would be awesome!!
7 auto bids for confernece champs, then 5 at large bids
This post was edited on 12/19/25 at 10:28 am
Posted on 12/19/25 at 10:40 am to TheDeathValley
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Didn't say that - 1 to 2 might have a drop off, 1 to 12 definitely has a drop off.
Maybe, just maybe, #2 wasnt always the second best team.
In 4/11 of all CFP championships, someone outside the top 2 has made the final. Twice the #1 and 2 seed both failed to make the title game. Last year was 7 v 8.
This post was edited on 12/19/25 at 10:41 am
Posted on 12/19/25 at 10:46 am to Master of Sinanju
They’ll keep expanding, but I wish they wouldn’t.
I think I agree that 4 was a sweet spot. Teams will always feel left out, so they will allow more teams in to appease more schools. I don’t like it.
I think I agree that 4 was a sweet spot. Teams will always feel left out, so they will allow more teams in to appease more schools. I don’t like it.
Posted on 12/19/25 at 10:47 am to JamalMurry27
The bigget issue I had with the BCS setup was that it always rewarded teams that lost early in the season (and then won as the season went on) and always hurt the teams that won early on but had a loss late in the season. At least with the playoffs they will look at the entirety of the season vs a computer system that was skewed bc of when teams lost.
Posted on 12/19/25 at 1:02 pm to The Third Leg
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The BCS never had mismatched title tilts 1999 - Florida state 46-29 over VA Tech
This is what happens when you just look at the final score and nothing else. Virgina Tech led 29-28 in the fourth quarter. Michael Vick absolutely WILLED his team to remain competitive with a far superior Florida State team for three quarters and some change.
Posted on 12/19/25 at 1:20 pm to RollTide1987
They got beat by 3 scores. Spin it how you like; this isn’t us talking about an 8-4 team playing well for 3 quarters against a contender, it was 1v2
They also trailed 28-7 before a furious rally that FSU responded to with 3 unanswered scores.
They also trailed 28-7 before a furious rally that FSU responded to with 3 unanswered scores.
This post was edited on 12/19/25 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 12/19/25 at 7:55 pm to JOHNN
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The bigget issue I had with the BCS setup was that it always rewarded teams that lost early in the season (and then won as the season went on) and always hurt the teams that won early on but had a loss late in the season. At least with the playoffs they will look at the entirety of the season vs a computer system that was skewed bc of when teams lost.
Always?
LSU still got in in 2007 despite losing at home to an unranked team in late November. And what really helped their case was destroying 11-2 ACC champ VT in September.
Posted on 12/19/25 at 8:17 pm to GoGators1995
You guys are a joke. We had years with teams with 0 losses or 1 loss and they never had a chance because the preseason polls didn’t include them and then they were held down because they weren’t in your conference. So to say no one outside the top 4 would have a chance is a joke.
You guys have lost the power. The playoffs are growing because that’s what people want. Sure, fans of the normal 8 teams that get ranked highly every preseason don’t want expansion but everyone else does.
But y’all can keep whining about the old days where the SEC was given Natties. Those days are over. Now you have to win it on the field.
You guys have lost the power. The playoffs are growing because that’s what people want. Sure, fans of the normal 8 teams that get ranked highly every preseason don’t want expansion but everyone else does.
But y’all can keep whining about the old days where the SEC was given Natties. Those days are over. Now you have to win it on the field.
Posted on 12/19/25 at 8:19 pm to JamalMurry27
More football is always the answer.
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