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re: Do you think Miami, USC, or Texas will resume back to national prominence anytime soon?

Posted on 12/29/19 at 3:27 pm to
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 3:27 pm to
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Miami could get back


Based on what?
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
10983 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 3:42 pm to
I guess Nebraska doesn’t even get mentioned anymore in threads like this?
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 3:44 pm to
Nebraska without partial qualifiers, county scholies and steroids will never be the Nebraska of the 90's.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33900 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 4:00 pm to
We'll see with Texas. They're by far the closest.

Herman has no reason to not get it done next season. Has Ehlinger coming back along with a team full of guys he recruited.

Miami and USC will always have the built-in advantage of being geographically desirable, so when they decide to be good they will be in short order.
This post was edited on 12/29/19 at 4:02 pm
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41518 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 4:05 pm to
I think Texas is the only one with potential due to university backing
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
19575 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 4:15 pm to
Miami Football

1926-1982: .546 winning percentage

1983-2003: .835 winning percentage

2004- 2019: .596 winning percentage


Canes fans seem to think the 21 years in the middle is their reality, and the 73 years in either side is the anomaly.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 4:31 pm to
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The PAC 12 was crippled when Pete Carroll, Harbaugh, and Chip Kelly left in a 4 year span.


the right coach and staff in southern cal is going to recruit the region, prepare the team and ride a great qb to a natty. From then on... Top 5.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
18430 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 6:23 pm to
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Miami will never be back. USCw seems like they are going the same way with no support from the administration


Didn't Will Muschamp replaced the OC? So your team shall get another chance to compete.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83226 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 6:37 pm to
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The college football paradigm has shifted to the SEC/Clemson with occasionally Ohio State rising to their level.


I’m starting to wonder if this should be a real concern for the overall health of the sport.
Posted by Samso
nyc
Member since Jun 2013
5037 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 6:42 pm to
Miami died with the old orange bowl


They will never be back to what they were 20 years ago.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 7:08 pm to
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I’m starting to wonder if this should be a real concern for the overall health of the sport.


Literally all starts with recruiting. Since 2010 go and look at the teams with the top 5-10 recruiting classes consistently. These are the teams that have made the playoffs.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83226 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 7:52 pm to
Yes of course. But as the talent funnels evermore into the southeastern schools, do other programs decide to up the ante to compete or do they decide to accept second tier status? Miami and USC seemingly are ok with mediocrity. I think this is bad for fan interest.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 8:01 pm to
Texas has the best chance.

The administrations at the other 2 schools don’t care enough.
Posted by Shingo
Dallas, TX, USA
Member since Sep 2010
4337 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 8:06 pm to
How would you say West Virginia is doing in the Big 12? Mediocre?
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84359 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 8:08 pm to
I think college football should have relegation
Posted by NFLU
New Orleans, LA
Member since Aug 2014
5842 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 8:50 pm to
Miami is dead and will never be the same. They have zero advantages when it comes to alumni support, atmosphere, and facilities compared to the elite.

Texas and USC could easily be powerhouses with the right coaches.

Posted by Dude88
Member since Sep 2019
744 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 9:10 pm to
Miami was never a “blue blood” in the first place. I think they’re done forever.

Miami is basically like Clemson will be starting about 4 years after Dabo’s departure. (At which point Dabo’s successor will run out of his recruits.) A non traditional power that thinks their accomplishments in a relatively short span are actually the norm for their program. And will take at least 30 years of firing a whole bunch of coaches before realizing the glory days are gone forever.

USC and Texas will eventually be back.
This post was edited on 12/29/19 at 10:25 pm
Posted by BZ504
Texas
Member since Oct 2005
12961 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 9:30 pm to
Miami could get back to being a 9-10 win program if the administration gets on board and because they have a lot of talent in the area. Top 20 recruiting class this year, but Diaz is pretty awful

USC - needs support from admin and a new coach

Texas - probably close to being good again and plays in a weak conference
Posted by Dude88
Member since Sep 2019
744 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 9:40 pm to
And this was the type of scedule the Canes faced in the early .546 years. VMI, Boston U (not Boston College), Richmond, Marquette and Stetson, all in the same year.

LINK


This post was edited on 12/29/19 at 11:01 pm
Posted by 805tiger
Member since Oct 2011
4550 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 10:52 pm to
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Miami has university issues to deal with before they can get back to being a consistent top 10 program.


Same with USC, I heard they have something like $500 million in lawsuits against them...
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