re: Did Hank Aaron use steroids?

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So we have to use a substance to bring back A GAME???? Come on man.

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It helped, no doubt. However, no one is sure to what extent that steroids aided the players, but they definitely helped.

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Yopu can't have it both ways bud. LOOK at your post.

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I guess steroids ruined the game for you, but sports were better back in the good old days anyway, so this is really a moot point.

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Au contraire, steroids saved the game




SAD!!!!!!!!!

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both are wrong. The 98 HR chase helped the game recove. There is nothing but anecdotel evidence that steroids or PED's help power numbers.

If taking steroids help you hit, why did Jeremy Giambi have all of 52 HR, for his career?

According to the Game of Shadows, Bonds started using steroids after the 1998 season.

After the 1998 season, he had a 164 OPS+ through 6621 AB. At a similar point in his career, Aaron had a 157 OPS+ through his first 6510 AB. He walked twice as much as Aaron. Bonds had seasons with a WAR (wins above replacement level) above 8.0 five times even before anybody suspected him of picking up a steroids needle. Aaron had seasons with a WAR above 8.0 four times for his entire career. Bonds led all position players in WAR 6 times. Aaron zero for his entire career. From 1986-1998, Bonds led the NL in offensive WAR six times. He had three different seasons with an offensive WAR above 9.0. Aaron led his league in offensive WAR twice for his entire career and had seasons with an offensive WAR above 9.0 twice for his entire career. Defensively, Bonds is 6th all-time in defensive WAR and compiled pretty much all of his defensive value before he blew up physically. Aaron is 47th all-time in defensive WAR. Bonds finished in the league top 10 in stolen bases 9 times, again all before he was suspected of using steroids and stole bases at a 78.5% clip. Aaron finished in the league top 10 in stolen bases 8 times and stole bases at a 76.7% clip. Bonds was the better offensive and defensive player as well as the superior baserunner. So how was Aaron the greater player?

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Any player that hits more Hr's than Singles in a season is NOT a GREAT year.

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Haven't finished reading the thread, so idk if he was callled out on this

but I doubt anything dumber has ever been said on the MSB.

He definitely got called for it.

I wanna see a GamecockAlum vs. Peej post off.

Once again: LINK

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They dramatically increase muscle mass

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steroids do not do this directly

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they increase reparation of muscle after weight lifting.

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this is what steroids do

lol at the people saying there's no way he took them

i finally got around to reading it (i thought it was a different angle), and i always figured the ball meant more

steroids increase muscle mass, but i don't know how much tehy increase your fast-twitch fibers or connective tissues. those give you the quick-strike explosiveness that you need for things like home runs, as well as a consistent swing that can place the right part of the bat on the ball, at the right angle (skill that has nothing to do with mass)