re: DAT Official Offseason Thread...RIP the A. Bregman years

I think if they can pay it down where the Astros only owe 50 over 3 that makes some sense.

I don’t think Press waives his no trade to go to a non contender, I don’t think the Cards would want Framber unless they could flip him and that frankly doesn’t make sense for either party. You probably don’t risk giving up Matthews, Melton, or Smith for Arenado so I really don’t see the fit here. Does Wesneski make Spaghetti expendable and they could send him to Cards for the Cards to pick up some salary? I’d certainly hope not bc I like Spencer. Maybe you give up some lower level guys you like and Montero and do a shitty unwanted salary swap? Probably doesn’t work.

Hasn’t been linked to anything at all, but what would you guys think about Spaghetti and Smith headlining a deal for Luis Robert?

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Harper, Machado are the latest whoever worked

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Those deals look good now. But at some point, they’re going to be an albatross as these players age. Bryce Harper still has 8 years left on his deal. Probably not as productive 4-5 years from now as he has been, and then the Phillies are left with 3-4 years of an underperforming contract. The Astros don’t want to get stuck with a lot of dead years on a contract. Have no problem with that because we’ve seen what happens when you miss on a player’s contract. We’re paying Jose Abreu not to be in the organization and we paid Montero to pitch in the minors at one point.

Crane is not cheap but he runs it as a business. He puts money into the product up to and sometimes over the limit set by MLB. Have no problem with that. But when you operate that way, your farm system has to keep pumping out players to sustain excellence, and that’s hard to do.

My issue with Crane has been the overreaction away from analytics because 3 or 4 meatheads who played 20-50 years ago don’t like the way the game is played today and think the back of a baseball card is the way totally to judge a player.

Mix of both I think. He had some bad lowlights of just mailing it in, but can’t really blame him for being on the worst team of all time.

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These comments about Crane not paying anyone are way off. He just refuses to hand out those 5-6+ year deals for crazy amounts of money, and honestly, I agree

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Well thats the market for those guys. So if you want to keep top end players, that's what it cost. Otherwise you sign guys like Jose Abreu, Josh Hader, Rafael Montero etc. on more palatable short term deals

You listed deals that didn't work out but I doubt teams that handed out big deals for Gerrit Cole, Francisco Lindor, Mookie Betts, Freddie Freeman, Bryce Harper, Corey Seagar have buyers remorse

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Most of those long contracts don’t work out toward the end, and you’re stuck paying a guy who isn’t producing anymore

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I don't think anyone expects them to work out near the end of the deal. The years are just extended to lower the yearly tax number.

I think as the bigger names start coming off the board someone will pivot to Pressly. Plenty of teams could use him. We probably get a lottery ticket in exchange for the salary dump.

100 days to Opening Day

Bregs and Burnes seem to be holding up the show.

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Bregs and Burnes seem to be holding up the show.

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I know a few people in the front office for the Astros and they said Bregman was given a number and that he was ok with their offer. They think he just wants to squeeze a little more out if possible. Will give the Astros option to match

I bet he stays right where he is

STFU and sign him.

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