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re: DAT Off-season Thread: YWCHA Edition

Posted on 11/30/22 at 3:07 pm to
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 3:07 pm to
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better be based on "we know how to fix him"


I can support this. All of the best organizations around the world with the best leaders agree that it is important to put people in positions of which they can succeed.



So, put him in position that he can be successful. I believe the Astros sales pitch goes something like this:

Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
25175 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 3:09 pm to
Astros can sign him to a minor league deal

I just don't want him ever called up
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104358 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

Astros can sign him to a minor league deal

I just don't want him ever called up


Lewis Brinson 2023 edition.
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
7330 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 3:49 pm to
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And Maldy will be in every single one of those meetings helping him learn the staff. Seems like the perfect setup to me. Game calling is something you can improve at.


Come on, Man. You really believe Dusty will play him at catcher 50% of the time. Vazquez was a better catcher and Dusty still only played him 1/3 of the time.

Y'all all living in some Dreamland. The staff, Dusty, all the mlb talking heads, Blummer and TK...literally everyone out there bows to Maldy as some great catcher. He's going to be our catcher most of the time. I know it's not popular with the DAT and lots of fans, but I don't see some other catcher playing most of the time.

I would love Brantley back.
Posted by Cliff Booth
Member since Feb 2021
3346 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 3:52 pm to
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Come on, Man. You really believe Dusty will play him at catcher 50% of the time. Vazquez was a better catcher and Dusty still only played him 1/3 of the time.


I do. Vazquez was a rental and a Click decision.

Contreras would be a major 4/5 year deal and a Crane decision.

Dusty gets his check from Crane.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104358 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 3:56 pm to
Even if Contreras only started at C 33% of the time, he would DH 50% of the time and still play in 5/6 games like everyone else in Dustyball.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
25175 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 4:55 pm to
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5/6 games like everyone else in Dustyball.


Nah, man, you can't hang that on Dusty

Hinch started that and it was probably FO related

Resting, pseudo-injury prevention, keeping stats down, whatever the reasoning, it has been an Astro thing prior to Dusty

I'm gonna do my best to CTFD about it now that our desired goal was reached doing it

And HFA in the playoffs could very well be an expected outcome with the roster as is
Posted by Off McVoy
Member since Feb 2006
4856 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 5:19 pm to
You cant DH your other Catcher unless you carry 3, right? Otherwise, what do you do in case of injury?
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104358 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 5:27 pm to
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You cant DH your other Catcher unless you carry 3, right? Otherwise, what do you do in case of injury?


You just lose the DH and the pitcher would go into Maldy's lineup spot.
Posted by Cliff Booth
Member since Feb 2021
3346 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 6:34 pm to
If Rosenthal is getting anything from actual sources, he made it sound like they were interested in rotating Contreras and Yordan in left in addition to him catching some. If true I’d assume they plan on carrying Lee.
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
84657 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:30 pm to
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Word is, the Astros and Justin Verlander are “far apart” in talks. Verlander seeks $130 million for three years (the Max Scherzer deal), and the Astros, with their deep rotation, seem pessimistic on Verlander, which may open things up for the Dodgers, Mets and Yankees.

“Quietly, they prefer not to sign him for three years. Verlander was great in-season but they carried him in the postseason,” one person familiar with the Astros’ thinking said. “No one [in Houston] wants to go three [years],” another source adds.


It's Heyman but sounds legit (and smart): LINK
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
102404 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:36 pm to
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Verlander seeks $130 million for three years (the Max Scherzer deal)


Thank you and goodbye.

Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
84657 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:39 pm to
Yep. I think only the Mets would consider 3 years, and they'd be goofy to do that over DeGrom.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
25175 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:52 pm to
DeGrom is a fragile sort

I give Verlander a better chance to make 3 years than DeGrom, and wouldn’t pay what the market will bring for either

And we never face DeGrom, but I have a sneaky suspicion we would own JV should we face him.

The risk of decline in JV has to be very real at this point.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104358 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:00 pm to
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Verlander seeks $130 million for three years (the Max Scherzer deal),


He won't get it. Scherzer was 3 years younger and also coming off a CY worthy season. He finished 3rd, but could have easily won.
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
84657 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:09 pm to
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DeGrom is a fragile sort

I give Verlander a better chance to make 3 years than DeGrom


I won't argue with either point for sure... but the idea for big contending clubs is to win the World Series. Everytime you get to the playoffs with a healthy DeGrom, you'll have the ultimate pitching weapon to help you win it all. JV is not really that anymore.
Posted by Southof10Tiger
H-Town
Member since May 2013
138 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:20 pm to
Was it already discussed why we aren’t seen as a major player for Rodon? It seems like he would be a borderline ideal free agent. Another left-handed arm, only 30 and relatively healthy enough to justify a 4 or 5 year deal for AAV of $25M per.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108649 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:24 pm to
He didn't pass Bagwell eye test.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
25175 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:25 pm to
Not no, but hell no

He’s not gonna maintain his velo near that long, and he, like Wheeler, has to have it

That money is going to Frambaw
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
25175 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:31 pm to
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. JV is not really that anymore.


Maybe never was. LOL

That first World Series win was shaky as Hell, and he might go David Duval after finally getting it
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