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re: DAT 4/24: Off Day Discussion

Posted on 4/24/25 at 9:53 am to
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 9:53 am to
Remember that off season smoke about Jorge Polanco? Mariners signed him for 1/7.75


.339 BA (would lead Astros)
4HR (would lead Astros)
13 RBI (would lead Astros)
.356 OBP (would lead Astros)
.589 SLG (would lead Astros)
.945 OPS (would lead Astros)
13.3% K rate (would lead Astros)

He's a switch hitter but he's only got 5AB as a RHB so most of this is from the left side.


But of course the Cintron method would have ruined him like everybody else and he'd be hitting .220 with no power so none of this really matters.


Now mind you, if you're worried about the future, let's check in on our minor league system. Help is surely on the way and the future is bri....


Single A- .228 team average
High A- .212
AA- .194
AAA- .188


They're getting progressively worse as they rise.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 10:16 am to
Baw you had yourself quite a little melt about them possibly signing Polanco if my memory serves
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
12426 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 10:32 am to
Dude is hitting 75 points above his career average. Hell, his average is 9 points higher than his career OBP.

No way he sustains that for the year.

He's going to fall hard and look worse than Christian Brett-Wallace Walker.
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 10:36 am to
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Baw you had yourself quite a little melt about them possibly signing Polanco if my memory serves


Posted by TigerFan91
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Member since Jan 2005
28999 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 10:57 am to
Was trying to figure out why Gusto was having so much success with basically just a flat, low to mid 90's 4-seam fastball, then it hit me that it must have some Javi characteristics and just more explosiveness or stays on plane that the hitter can't pick up.

Sure enough, it looks like the movement and spin profile on the pitch are nearly identical, Gusto is just a couple degrees more over the top. Astros pitching nerds are very very good at their job, and the pitchers seemingly do a great job of buying in and executing.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
99589 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 10:59 am to
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Baw you had yourself quite a little melt about them possibly signing Polanco if my memory serves


Oh I didn't want him. Particularly when we were seemingly pursuing him after acquiring Paredes and it was the initial floating idea stages of moving Altuve to LF.

A melt was a possibility so I checked the archives. this was all I posted about him. Pretty mild since we didn't sign him.




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Why stick with just one Jeremy Pena when you can have two?



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But I don't want Jorge Polanco, Jim.



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Astros are strongly interested in INF Jorge Polanco


Idk if this guy is credible. Doesn't seem to make much sense for us though.



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sources: Astros continue to pursue Jorge Polanco


Idk wtf this team is doing.
Posted by icegator337
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:04 am to
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DAT 4/24: Off Day Discussion

Since Walker started hitting lately and Hader has been excellent this year, I want to hate on Jim Crane for the Astros being the only MLB team to not offer a direct to consumer streaming option.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
62091 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:06 am to
It was odd as hell before we knew the Altuve to LF thing was happening no matter what. He’s clearly going to regress but if he puts up his 2022 or 2023 line it’s a great deal for Seattle. I think I read he played hurt a lot of last year (and they would know that better than anyone obviously)

Still think Rodgers has a chance to be a nice contributor but he needs to play more over Dubon. Espada seems dead set against it
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
99589 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:17 am to
That was my beef with it. At first it seemed like we might stick him in LF. A 30 something infielder with bad offense coming off a bum knee. Then came the rumbles of moving Altuve to LF for Polanco at 2nd...again wtf is this? Seemed unimaginable at that point.


I mentioned him not to say in hindsight we should have signed him. Definitely didn't want him. Just more of a sarcastic eyeroll that yep...of course his numbers would be the best on the team.
Posted by TigerFan91
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Member since Jan 2005
28999 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:25 am to
His camp was pretty adamant the offseason surgery cleaned up something that had been bugging him.

30 years old for a smaller guy is a pretty weird age to go from solidly above average hitter to borderline unplayable. Kinda just wanted him for the left handed bat and positional flexibility (2nd, 1st, 3rd) but didn't think he'd have a 7.5m price tag so it made sense if the Astros balked or didn't match that. Especially if they could get a good defender in Rodgers with some potential upside

Shoot, IIRC from that series I think he's still dealing with a side issue that's preventing him from taking a lot of reps from his right side. They left him on the bench for a very bad left on left matchup and TK and Blummer were talking about it.
This post was edited on 4/24/25 at 11:27 am
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
37920 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 12:16 pm to
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Espada seems dead set against it

Because Rodgers is a very marginal threat at the plate. Rodgers seems like a Bagwell cripple signing 100%. The back of Rodgers baseball card must've looked pretty sweet to Bagwell. Just another part of the Front Office fantasy of Altuve in LF.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
62091 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 12:22 pm to
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Because Rodgers is a very marginal threat at the plate


Have you seen Dubon play baseball
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
24334 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 12:22 pm to
please start a new thread for the off days...
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
80506 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 12:36 pm to
Rodgers was a great signing for virtually nothing. He hits the shite out of the ball and isn't impatient at the plate. If he could figure out launch angle and put that power and bat speed to fewer ground balls, Rodgers would be well above average.

Dubon is a backup utility guy to the entire planet, except Joe Espada.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
62091 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 12:37 pm to
I think they changed his swing to lift more if you watch it vs last year and look at his batted ball data (very small sample size)

Silly to do that and not play him more when your alternative is Dubon
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
31764 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 12:42 pm to
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Still think Rodgers has a chance to be a nice contributor but he needs to play more over Dubon. Espada seems dead set against it


Still have no idea why Sleepy Joe isn't already doing this.
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
80506 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 12:43 pm to
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Silly to do that and not play him more when your alternative is Dubon


And yet, the dumbass in the dugout, aka Dusty Jr., steals playing time from Dezenzo and Rodgers to play Slappy Dubon.
Posted by TigerFan91
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Member since Jan 2005
28999 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 12:56 pm to
He started 9 of the first 12 until that hip thing, could still be a little tender?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
117019 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 1:20 pm to
Huh? We got Rodgers off the bargain bin
Posted by jclem11
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 1:59 pm to
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If you ever see her toes without shoes and socks, you'll understand.


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