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re: DAT: 2017 Houston Astros Spring Training Thread

Posted on 2/27/17 at 3:15 pm to
Posted by Floating Change Up
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 3:15 pm to
I 'member lots of people were pissed off when Maverick was traded to the Brewers.

Have we missed him? Is he still the can't-miss star?

If Martes and Tucker bring Quintana, I'm feeling ok with that trade.
Posted by List Eater
Htown
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 3:15 pm to
Tucker isn't going anywhere, especially for Quintana
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 3:17 pm to
Quintana would certainly be an upgrade and would make us better as a team. He's a solid pitcher and is affordably controlled for the next few years.

He's likely a #2 at best. He'll give you 200 innings and a mid 3's ERA. He's solid and reliable but he's not an ace. Not a strikeout guy. Tucker and Martes plus others is a hell of a price to pay for a guy that's not the ace of a staff. He's not a Greinke, Sabathia, Price or Randy Johnson type of acquisition to bolster a staff.

I would have been fine with that package for Chris Sale. A guy who you no doubt throw in game 1 or game 7 of the playoffs. I just don't know if Quintana is the guy you use that package on or wait till midseason and see who's selling.
Posted by Floating Change Up
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 5:24 pm to
Hey... anyone notice, Astros had three more base running blunders today? One in the 8th inning and two in the 9th inning.

I know it is too early to be complaining, but I truly hope this season they don't pull the circus acts on the bases like they did last year.
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:11 pm to
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two in the 9th inning.


The first one was not an blunder. The 3rd baseman cheated and had the entire bag blocked by his leg when the runner is definitely safe. If that's the regular season, Pettis goes ape shite complaining.

On the second, Astros were up 5-2 after the hit. I think Kemp was just trying to help steal another run by getting in a run down (and save the poor Mets reliever any more misery in a meaningless game after throwing 30+ pitches).
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:26 pm to
quote:

know it is too early to be complaining, but I truly hope this season they don't pull the circus acts on the bases like they did last year.




I'm not sure I'd be able to find the quote but I read something from Hinch about being too aggressive early last year, running into outs and getting off to a bad start.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:35 pm to
quote:

know it is too early to be complaining, but I truly hope this season they don't pull the circus acts on the bases like they did last year.



I'm not sure I'd be able to find the quote but I read something from Hinch about being too aggressive early last year, running into outs and getting off to a bad start.


you take chances on the basepaths when you dont have the bats coming up in the line up

change in players should bring about a change in philosophy
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:39 pm to
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you take chances on the basepaths when you dont have the bats coming up in the line up
change in players should bring about a change in philosophy


You clearly did not watch many games last year... There is a huge difference from taking chances and making mistakes on the base paths.

The Astros were an absolute terrible running team last year.
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:42 pm to
That they were. Let's hope they trust their lineup more, although I think George and Jose will still derp it up at times.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:49 pm to
I feel like I stopped cursing Gary Pettis as the season went on and they got those things cleaned up. But early on, Pettis was repeatedly running us into outs on the basepaths and individually, Altuve was being way to aggressive and getting thrown out.
Posted by List Eater
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 8:25 pm to
quote:

I think Kemp was just trying to help steal another run by getting in a run down (and save the poor Mets reliever any more misery in a meaningless game after throwing 30+ pitches).

and the guy thrown out has all of 23 major league affiliated games under his belt before today
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 8:38 pm to
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and the guy thrown out has all of 23 major league affiliated games under his belt before today


Tuve is a fast teacher.

Posted by iamAG
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:05 am to
First game on TV today boys
Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 2/28/17 at 9:52 am to
Thought it's a Mets replay?
Posted by TXGunslinger10
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2011
17998 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 10:01 am to
Its our new Spring home opener vs our campus mate (Nats).
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
76794 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 10:43 am to
Makes it a big game today. Astros need to mark their territory.

Posted by iamAG
Member since Aug 2015
3517 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 11:38 am to
No it's stros vs nats live at noon
This post was edited on 2/28/17 at 11:39 am
Posted by StormTiger
Norwich, England (from Texas)
Member since Dec 2003
4895 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 12:18 pm to
Thoughts on the new announcer Todd Kalas? Kinda strange hearing a different voice - seems solid
This post was edited on 2/28/17 at 12:27 pm
Posted by iamAG
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 2/28/17 at 12:26 pm to
So far so good for the announcers. Fires doesn't look good but it's very early.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 2/28/17 at 12:29 pm to
What did you expect from him?
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