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re: DAT 2015-2016 Offseason Thread

Posted on 1/18/16 at 12:15 pm to
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 1/18/16 at 12:15 pm to
But it's left field. That's not hard to fill, especially a team that plays half of its games with the Crawford Boxes. A name in the system to watch there is Jon Kemmer in 2017, by the way.

That said, you want to win now. If adding another OF bat while trading an affordable Gomez to a team who needs a CF to improve the rotation can happen, you look into it closely. I'm sure Luhnow is doing just that.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/18/16 at 2:23 pm to
For maybe the first time, I agree with Lester. I don't want Cespedes. I think his 2015 was an aberration. It's out of line with his other 3 years in the majors.

From 2012-2014 his line was .263/.316 24HR 89RBI 38 walks 122 strikeouts. He's 30 years old and on the downside of his prime years. I don't think our lineup is really lacking a low average, low walk high strikeout home run hitter. We've got plenty of those types and they aren't costing over 20 million a year.
Posted by Adam Banks
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Posted on 1/18/16 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

Gomez is a Kobe type guy. Exceptional athlete. But he's simply their to promote himself. I think he will kill the dugout and clubhouse if he stays.


IMO he's the opposite he integrated to the team seemingly day one and even at his lowest point last season he seemed to legitimately be having fun and cheering on his teammates.

He's a very polarizing guy because he is very outspoken but he seemed very team oriented to me.

Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60282 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 2:45 pm to
Everything I've read from guys who played with him has said that he's a great teammate and misunderstood. I think he's just really emotional and loses control sometimes.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94949 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 3:43 pm to
Gomez can be a bit of a douche and a hot head. I'll say that I loved the energy that he brought to the team. Dude is a fiery guy really unlike anyone else on the team.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/18/16 at 5:44 pm to
quote:

For maybe the first time, I agree with Lester. I don't want Cespedes. I think his 2015 was an aberration. It's out of line with his other 3 years in the majors.


I don't either. I like the OF they hAve now.

The only reason he's being mentioned is because I think they're dangling Gomez for a SP
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/18/16 at 6:16 pm to
quote:

The only reason he's being mentioned is because I think they're dangling Gomez for a SP


Again - IF they can bring in a #1 or #2 type guy by swapping Gomez with Ces -- go for it. Otherwise, I don't like the idea of spending the money for Ces when his value add isn't worth the spend rate.

As for 2015 being an aberration -- it definitely is, until he can reproduce it. I think the things that scouts are looking at is the fact that Cespedes performed well after he went to the Mets -- that lineup was a black hole before he got there. It's not like they penciled him in between Pujols and Trout.

All that said... I'm still on the Marisnick bandwagon until the wheels fall off.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/18/16 at 7:13 pm to
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the Marisnick bandwagon


Is this a rust bucket you keep in your garage??
Posted by msutiger
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Posted on 1/18/16 at 8:00 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/15/23 at 4:24 am
Posted by TXGunslinger10
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2011
17996 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 8:03 pm to
Atta baby msu!

The president of the Marisnick fan club approves
This post was edited on 1/18/16 at 8:04 pm
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94949 posts
Posted on 1/18/16 at 11:41 pm to
I'm starting to grow tired of Drellich. Go check out his twitter feed and latest articles. The guy has gone on a crusade to paint the Astros as cheap and totally unwilling to spend. It's weird. When and for who were the Astros supposed to spend gobs of money?? This year is the first year in sometime that we enter the season with some level of competitive expectations.

Also as I recall, the Astros reportedly outbid the Yankees last year for one of the top relievers on the market in Andrew Miller but he turned it down. Drellich seems to be hell bent on the team dishing out $150-200 million contracts just for the sake of spending money. He's become a bigger troll than Ortiz.
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:01 am to
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I'm starting to grow tired of Drellich.



He is a bitch and troll.


Also, Upton to Tigers for over $22M AAV for 6 years with opt out after two seasons. Assuming Cespedes gets around that AAV, no thanks.
Posted by dhav14
Member since Jun 2014
9546 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 8:28 am to
quote:

Drellich seems to be hell bent on the team dishing out $150-200 million contracts just for the sake of spending money


We've found Ryno's true identity
Posted by msutiger
Shreveport
Member since Jul 2008
69694 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 8:54 am to
I've been reading those and it honestly surprised the hell out of me. I used to really enjoy Drellich's writing but he has been incredibly obnoxious and borderline irrational as of late
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60282 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:09 am to
I don't read his stuff anymore. It's like he's pissed they're good, he's picked an odd time to start questioning the front office. I don't remember him being so critical when they were still rebuilding
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
103260 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:15 am to
Drellich and Brian smith are the only two people I trust covering the Astros. They aren't public relations arms for the club like the other clowns. They actually question the front office...that is a good thing.

I don't think anyone who knows thinks he is advocating 150 million payroll just because...he is correct that our payroll doesn't reflect our market position and it shows we aren't doing absolutely everything possible to win a title.

God bless Evan D and Brian T.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279263 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:42 am to
you need to follow Chris Gordy
Posted by msutiger
Shreveport
Member since Jul 2008
69694 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:21 am to
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and it shows we aren't doing absolutely everything possible to win a title.




Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93793 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 12:51 pm to
Dude just can't help himself
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37141 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 4:05 pm to
Drellich is a bit douchey and seems to be looking for the controversial tweets lately. Maybe offseason clicks or he's going by the 'negative news gets the attention' rule.

Overall I think he is okay for a follow for news.
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