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re: Covers.com Projected BCS Matchups and Lines
Posted on 11/6/12 at 11:25 am to H-Town Tiger
Posted on 11/6/12 at 11:25 am to H-Town Tiger
So if Oregon State is barely eligible (#15 or #16) with 2 losses and ND has 1-loss and ranked in the Top 10.
Wow, that would be some loyalty and bending over backwards and a matchup nobody really wants to see.
USC they would take. Oregon State over Notre Dame. I'm not buying it...Rose is still in the business of profit.
Wow, that would be some loyalty and bending over backwards and a matchup nobody really wants to see.
USC they would take. Oregon State over Notre Dame. I'm not buying it...Rose is still in the business of profit.
This post was edited on 11/6/12 at 11:26 am
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Posted on 11/6/12 at 11:32 am to Zamoro10
IMHO, SC would have to win out, and despite the difficulty, it's doable. If the Trojans beat:
NR ASU, #18 ucla, #4 ND and #2 Oregon, there's no way the Rose doesn't take them.
It'd be a pretty spectacular end to the season.
Oregon would look great in the Fiesta Bowl.
NR ASU, #18 ucla, #4 ND and #2 Oregon, there's no way the Rose doesn't take them.
It'd be a pretty spectacular end to the season.
Oregon would look great in the Fiesta Bowl.
This post was edited on 11/6/12 at 11:33 am
Posted on 11/6/12 at 11:33 am to bayoujd
IMO
If I were doing lines based on the entire season
up to this last weekend
LSU -4 over Kstate
LSU -8 over ND
I think I am being nice to ND also. I believe ALA was a -13.5 over ND if the games were last week per Vegas
If I were doing lines based on the entire season
up to this last weekend
LSU -4 over Kstate
LSU -8 over ND
I think I am being nice to ND also. I believe ALA was a -13.5 over ND if the games were last week per Vegas
Posted on 11/6/12 at 11:34 am to loweralabamatrojan
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and #2 Oregon, there's no way the Rose doesn't take them.
Well they would have to - we'd be Pac-12 Champs!!! - if we played Oregon again and won.
Posted on 11/6/12 at 11:38 am to Zamoro10
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Wow, that would be some loyalty and bending over backwards and a matchup nobody really wants to see.
USC they would take. Oregon State over Notre Dame. I'm not buying it...Rose is still in the business of profit
Who the hell wanted to see USC-Ill? Considering how loyal the Pac 12 has been in sticking with the BiG and Rose Bowl, it would be pretty surprising if the dicked the conference over. The Pac10 could have voted with the SEC and ACC for a playoff a long time ago and told the Rose Bowl to fly a kite, that would be a huge slap in the face that would cost the Pac 12 a lot. Oregon State hasn't been to the Rose Bowl in forever, I bet they'd sell plenty of tickets and I'd also bet that the Rose Bowl is listed as a non-profit.
The more i think about it, if Alabama is in the BCS CG, the Sugar might take ND with their first pick. The Rose is not going to take UF/LSU/UGA/USCe to replace Oregon even if a Pac 12 team is not eligible. The Fiesta might, but if they don't the Sugar will with their 2nd pick and if the Fiesta did, the Sugar can just take a Big 12 tem or maybe Clemson.
Posted on 11/6/12 at 11:39 am to loweralabamatrojan
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NR ASU, #18 ucla, #4 ND and #2 Oregon, there's no way the Rose doesn't take them.
if that plays out the Rose Bowl wouldn't have a choice since the Pac 12 champ goes to the Rose Bowl, unless they are in the BCS CG.
Posted on 11/6/12 at 11:44 am to H-Town Tiger
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The more i think about it, if Alabama is in the BCS CG, the Sugar might take ND with their first pick.
What about Oregon? Does the Rose not get 1st pick this year if they lose their team to the BCS CG?
Posted on 11/6/12 at 11:47 am to Zamoro10
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So if Oregon State is barely eligible (#15 or #16) with 2 losses and ND has 1-loss and ranked in the Top 10.
Finishing at least #14 in the BCS is the exact cutoff for eligibility.
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USC they would take. Oregon State over Notre Dame. I'm not buying it...Rose is still in the business of profit.
I think in the long term, not turning their back on the PAC12 is probably a more lucrative decision. Getting Notre Dame would be huge for the Rose Bowl this year but even if Oregon St loses to Oregon and finishes 10-2 they'll get that bid.
The real chance ND has at the Rose is that Oregon St also loses at Stanford, Oregon runs the table, and the PAC12 doesn't have a second team in the Top 14.
I also don't see the Sugar Bowl turning their back on a Top5 SEC team even for ND.
This post was edited on 11/6/12 at 11:50 am
Posted on 11/6/12 at 11:48 am to H-Town Tiger
I think with the playoff coming the Rose has moved away from its hard line stance.
The only thing supporting the conclusion of OSU going is when the Rose took shite-arse #13 Illinois in 2008 to replace Ohio State.
Yes, they would take a 3-loss USC at large if it wins out and doesn't have to play Oregon again...ala Bama last year because Zona goes to the PacCG
The only thing supporting the conclusion of OSU going is when the Rose took shite-arse #13 Illinois in 2008 to replace Ohio State.
Yes, they would take a 3-loss USC at large if it wins out and doesn't have to play Oregon again...ala Bama last year because Zona goes to the PacCG
This post was edited on 11/6/12 at 11:49 am
Posted on 11/6/12 at 11:48 am to bayoujd
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Sugar
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Georgia
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Oklahoma
lol
Posted on 11/6/12 at 11:49 am to Zamoro10
Sugar would take nd with the 1st pick, setting up an nd/la tech matchup. Rose bowl takes lsu as top 2 loss team. Oregon state will not get in due to la tech.
Posted on 11/6/12 at 12:03 pm to T
I wonder if the BIG can go winless this year
Posted on 11/6/12 at 12:08 pm to sunnydaze
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sunnydaze
UGA and OU could both finish 10-2 and ranked in the top 2, care to tell us why that's funny?
Posted on 11/6/12 at 12:10 pm to wm72
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I also don't see the Sugar Bowl turning their back on a Top5 SEC team even for ND.
I could because they could still get an SEC team and if the Rose took an SEC team, i doubt the SEC or that team would be upset. Plus the SEC has a new deal to have the SEC Champ play the Big 12 champ possibly in a new bowl.
This post was edited on 11/6/12 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 11/6/12 at 12:19 pm to H-Town Tiger
Jokes on you if you think OU and UGA finishes in the top 2
Posted on 11/6/12 at 12:26 pm to H-Town Tiger
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I could because they could still get an SEC team and if the Rose took an SEC team, i doubt the SEC or that team would be upset.
I think I'm missing the scenario in which the Sugar would get both ND and an SEC team?
I guess I'm somewhat in the minority here, but I just don't see any way that the Rose Bowl doesn't take an eligible PAC12 team.
Even if they had the chance for undefeated ND, I still don't see it happening unless there's some shady behind the scenes brokering going on to make the PAC12 team satisfied with that deal.
Though I do agree that it would cause any waves for the Sugar Bowl if the SEC team they didn't choose went to the Rose Bowl instead in that scenario.
Posted on 11/6/12 at 12:48 pm to wm72
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I think I'm missing the scenario in which the Sugar would get both ND and an SEC team?
Assuming Alabama is in the BCS CG, the Sugar Bowl gets first pick. They could take ND. I agree with you that the Rose will take an eligible Pac 12 team to replace Oregon. So if the Fiesta doesn't take an SEC team to play KSU, then the Sugar Bowl would next. It's a stretch because the only appealing picks for the Fiesta would an SEC or ACC team assuming they don't want KSU-OU rematch.
Posted on 11/6/12 at 12:49 pm to TigerStripes06
If UGA doesn't win the SECCG, LSU is the likely Sugar Bowl pick.
LSU travels EXTREMELY well. Any bowl would be falling over themselves trying to get us in a bid.
LSU travels EXTREMELY well. Any bowl would be falling over themselves trying to get us in a bid.
Posted on 11/6/12 at 12:51 pm to bayoujd
why do i keep seeing projections with BAMA in the NC and UGA in the sugar...makes no sense
Posted on 11/6/12 at 12:54 pm to H-Town Tiger
Thanks.
Yeah, I suppose that could happen.
The best chance would seem to be for all the relevant SEC teams to lose one more game: FSU beats Florida, Clemson beats South Carolina, LSU loses and Georgia loses badly in SECCG.
I could see the Fiesta taking 1 loss Clemson over Georgia or Florida in that case.
Yeah, I suppose that could happen.
The best chance would seem to be for all the relevant SEC teams to lose one more game: FSU beats Florida, Clemson beats South Carolina, LSU loses and Georgia loses badly in SECCG.
I could see the Fiesta taking 1 loss Clemson over Georgia or Florida in that case.
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