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re: Could athletes of the 70's and 80's compete today?

Posted on 1/4/12 at 7:15 pm to
Posted by LSU fan 246
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Posted on 1/4/12 at 7:15 pm to
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DO YOU WANT TO be a part of this thread or not???


already here YOU OLD drunk frick!!!!!!


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You have brought NOTHING. FLAME CITY. and its old and stale. How is the parents basement you are living in???


how ironic. i thought you only used the parents basement thing for SFP? im glad you could branch out your flaming to me also.


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Do they know YOU are on the computer???


ill call them and tell them im arguing with a 50 year old drunk on the internet right now. and when i say call, i mean yelling at them from down in the basement


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Better check twice LITTLE BOY. YES. You are one of the few on here I would KICK THE shite OUT OF.



PACK UP your BUD HEAVY. WHERE we going to FIGHT AT???????????
Posted by LSUtigersarefun
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 1/4/12 at 7:17 pm to
PJ you use CAPITAL letters like a champ.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216458 posts
Posted on 1/4/12 at 7:17 pm to
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Peej honest question here. How do you hide Fencik from the Saints? If you let Marshall cover Graham you lose the Bears best pass rusher. If you let him cover Graham it's gash city. Fencik Wilson and Marshall are what made that defense, you know it but I know you'll argue Mike.

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Shaun Gayle isn't the answer either



NICE. OK. The Saints have a GREAT O-LINE and COULD DRAW the Bears prety good. I don't know if you saw the 85 Bears play, BUT I see it as what the Cowboys did in 2009 in the Dome and Brees had problems BIG-TIME. PLUS the Bears O would RUN through the Saints D way more than Seattle did last year. If we are gonna fantisize , LETS DO IT.
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 1/4/12 at 7:18 pm to
with modern training and nutrition I see no reason why these guys couldn't compete at a high level
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
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Posted on 1/4/12 at 7:19 pm to
Peej I'm plus 40 years old, worked in college athletics, and know a little about football. Peej stop you are embarrassing yourself.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 1/4/12 at 7:25 pm to
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Peej I'm plus 40 years old, worked in college athletics


OK.


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worked in college athletics


SO. This has to do with what???

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and know a little about football


I know you do. RESPECT!!


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Peej stop you are embarrassing yourself.


BUT it doesn't mean YOU know MORE than me. IN THEIR PRIME, THE 85 BEARS WOULD have had a feld day with the Saints offense. YES THAT D was that good. BUT ITs all about what players could do well now. I hAve already stated what I feel. BO would RUN over Ray Lewis. Its a terrible debate really. Sorry DUDE I am a historian and get bashed cause young punks who know nothing about a great game comwe in and talk shite that they don't know about.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 1/4/12 at 7:30 pm to
They would not have been able to run their base, that's what you aren't getting. The Saints would've formationed them out of their best defense. The Nose and their Edge on strong side (Wilson usually) would've been taken out of game with the extra WR's. They dominated a 1 back team, but always those teams were like the Rams, run first.
This post was edited on 1/4/12 at 7:31 pm
Posted by TBubba
Not sure
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/4/12 at 7:32 pm to
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Could Mel Blount cover Calvin Johnson? Could Mike Singletary stop Pierre Thomas? Could Ron Guidry mow down Albert Pujols?
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One of these names is not like the others.
Posted by BigBrod81
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 1/4/12 at 7:34 pm to
Does anyone remember what Marino did to the '85 Bears when the Dolphins spread them out & attacked them through the air?
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 1/4/12 at 7:34 pm to
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They would not have been able to run their base, that's what you aren't getting. The Saints would've formationed them out of their best defense. The Nose and their Edge on strong side (Wilson usually) would've been taken out of game with the extra WR's. They dominated a 1 back team, but always those teams were like the Rams, run first.


I agree to a point. BUT We will never know what kind of adjustments THAT TEAM could have done. THINK about it. The rams O was pretty good in 85. BUT I see your point. The 85 Dolphins were an awesome passing team.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
140861 posts
Posted on 1/4/12 at 7:35 pm to
And who won that game? The Dolphins
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 1/4/12 at 7:40 pm to
These questions are kind of dumb because each succeeding generation benefits from the experience of prior generations.

There are all sorts of scientists who "know" more now than Albert Einstein ever did but do you really believe they can think better than he did?

Why isn't the question ever asked in reverse? Could today's athletes succeed a few decades ago under more primitive conditions in training, supplements, medicine, etc.? How many of today's studs would be done already because they used to fillet a knee rather than scope it?
Posted by USMC DAWG
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/4/12 at 7:41 pm to
Herschel, Bo, Deion (FSU days), and Nolan Ryan would still dominate.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
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Posted on 1/4/12 at 7:43 pm to
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The 46 D


The 46 D is named after a Buckeye. Fact!
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 1/4/12 at 7:52 pm to
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I just played it on whatifsports


I was gonna thank you for that site, but it's complete bullshite.

It had 2002 Ohio State crushing 2011 LSU 37-14, 42-17, 35-9.

It also had 2011 bama beating 2011 LSU 42-7 and 32-14 in bama.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 1/4/12 at 7:53 pm to
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Why isn't the question ever asked in reverse? Could today's athletes succeed a few decades ago under more primitive conditions in training, supplements, medicine, etc.?


I've wondered that about golf and the old equipment they used.
Posted by Sophandros
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 1/4/12 at 7:58 pm to
Back in 1985, William Perry was considered a behemouth.

He was 325.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/4/12 at 8:00 pm to
He's also 6'2". Most of today's 300 pounders are a good bit taller than 6'2".
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/4/12 at 8:05 pm to
80s and 70s yes the best guys would still be the best

Roberto Duran would be right there with Pacquiao and Mayweather

Joe Morgan would be right there with Cano and Pedrioa

Guy Lafleur would be right there with Perry and ST Louis

Now guys from the 40s and 50s like Gordie Howe, Ted Williams and Sugar Ray Robinson would probable struggle athletes have just evolved too much
This post was edited on 1/4/12 at 8:08 pm
Posted by Sophandros
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Member since Feb 2005
45219 posts
Posted on 1/4/12 at 8:06 pm to
He was also extremely fat, whereas the 325 guys today, even at his height, have more muscle mass.

ETA: Carl Nicks is like 6'4", 343, for example.
This post was edited on 1/4/12 at 8:10 pm
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