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re: Could athletes of the 70's and 80's compete today?
Posted on 1/4/12 at 6:39 pm to lsu480
Posted on 1/4/12 at 6:39 pm to lsu480
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To be fair the 46 is used to put pressure on the QB....it isn't a defense that stacks the box to stop the run.
It does both, but the Saints offense is just ridiculous, and it's not like Brees holds onto the ball. How do you cover (consistently) guys like Graham and Colston with Singletary, Marshall, or any of their other LB's in the middle of the field?
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Posted on 1/4/12 at 6:40 pm to Stagg8
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Yes... a base defense with 8 men in the box would stop the most prolific passing attack in league history.
but dude its the 85 Bears!!!!!!!!!!!!!
its hard to argue with the local idiot though because his response is going to be "YOURE a frickING DIPSHIT cocksucker GO sit DOWN RETARD!!!!"
Posted on 1/4/12 at 6:41 pm to Stagg8
I agree with you....it is worthless against a team that runs great timing routes like the Saints do. I am confident that the ONLY thing PJ know about the 46 is that the bears ran it.
Posted on 1/4/12 at 6:42 pm to Stagg8
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This is beyond a doubt your worst logic used to date. Yes... a base defense with 8 men in the box would stop the most prolific passing attack in league history.
You are wrong here. YOU KNOW what kind of PRESSURE they would put on BREES??? It would be unreal.
Posted on 1/4/12 at 6:43 pm to lsu480
Depends on if they get caught up in modern football. Could you imagine them waking up tomorrow and seeing the spread 
Posted on 1/4/12 at 6:44 pm to dukke v
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You are wrong here. YOU KNOW what kind of PRESSURE they would put on BREES??? It would be unreal.
The Bears were great at it because of their freak athletes at the time.....the only problem is all of the Saints players today are bigger faster, and stronger than the players in the 80s.
Posted on 1/4/12 at 6:45 pm to dukke v
How are they going to pressure once the Edgee is taken away by formation Peej?
You have to realize they'll also replace lineman for a DB to match, taking the nose away
You have to realize they'll also replace lineman for a DB to match, taking the nose away
This post was edited on 1/4/12 at 6:47 pm
Posted on 1/4/12 at 6:45 pm to 7thWardTiger
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Depends on if they get caught up in modern football. Could you imagine them waking up tomorrow and seeing the spread
That is a huge factor but even more important is that the line players in the 70s were almost all under 300lbs.....there is no way they could compete, even with a good college team! They didn't have dudes like Orlando Pace back then!!!!
This post was edited on 1/4/12 at 6:46 pm
Posted on 1/4/12 at 6:50 pm to Snakebucket
When people consider the past players/teams compared to present I usually think about it as if the past players were contemporaries of those today and have the benefit of today's knowledge about training, nutrition and year round conditioning.
Some sports like baseball are much more comparable across generations as compared to contact sports like football.
So, yes, I believe the 27 Yankees or 29 A's could hang today as they were.
Some sports like baseball are much more comparable across generations as compared to contact sports like football.
So, yes, I believe the 27 Yankees or 29 A's could hang today as they were.
Posted on 1/4/12 at 6:52 pm to Snakebucket
Of coarse a lot of individuals throughout history could come in today and still be stars. You can't compare teams as a whole to ones of today though. Those old teams would get slaughtered. I mean in the mid 80 you didn't even see 300 pound players very often, much less ones that can run. I'd say the league is ever evolving every year to bigger more athletic teams in general.
Posted on 1/4/12 at 6:54 pm to Snakebucket
Danny Woodhead would have been a pro bowler in the 70's
Posted on 1/4/12 at 6:54 pm to lsu480
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.the only problem is all of the Saints players today are bigger faster, and stronger than the players in the 80s.
Well of course. But, imagine if instead of having been born during the 1950's and 60's, the Bears were contemporaries born during the 1970's and 1980's.
Posted on 1/4/12 at 6:58 pm to lsu480
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The Bears were great at it because of their freak athletes at the time.....the only problem is all of the Saints players today are bigger faster, and stronger than the players in the 80s.
This a FANTASY THREAD. The Bears in 1985 were the BEST D IN HISTORY. In their prime they would SKULLfrick The Saints O. BUT carry on.
Back on point. YES there are certain athletes that could compete in THIS day and age. Joe greene, Jack Lambert, Gale Sayers, Jim Brown,Walter Payton,John Riggins. Just to name a few.
Posted on 1/4/12 at 7:01 pm to dukke v
did you even read peoples responses?
8 men in the box and the Saints are lined up 5 wide with Drew getting rid of the ball in about 2 seconds. but yea the bears are going to SKULLfrick the saints.
way to cherry pick some of the greatest of all time to make a point
8 men in the box and the Saints are lined up 5 wide with Drew getting rid of the ball in about 2 seconds. but yea the bears are going to SKULLfrick the saints.
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Back on point. YES there are certain athletes that could compete in THIS day and age. Joe greene, Jack Lambert, Gale Sayers, Jim Brown,Walter Payton,John Riggins. Just to name a few.
way to cherry pick some of the greatest of all time to make a point
Posted on 1/4/12 at 7:03 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Danny Woodhead would have been a a great porn name in the 70's
Posted on 1/4/12 at 7:04 pm to Deactived
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8 men in the box and the Saints are lined up 5 wide with Drew getting rid of the ball in about 2 seconds. but yea the bears are going to SKULLfrick the saints.
I forgot. YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A LITTLE 20 SOMETHING LITTLE BITCH WHO DID NOT SEE THE 85 BEARS PLAY!! FORGIVE ME. I have to make way for the future. SAD.
Posted on 1/4/12 at 7:05 pm to Snakebucket
Star athletes from the 80's would still be stars, if Ingram could win a heisman, I know Bo could or Walker would be heisman winners today. However I imagine that the average player would not be on the same level. I also imagine that Calvin Johnson would have a field day, but Modern d backs can't stop them either.
Posted on 1/4/12 at 7:06 pm to dukke v
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I have to make way for the future. SAD.
yea get your trailer out of the fricking way. IM COMING THROUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted on 1/4/12 at 7:12 pm to dukke v
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The 46 D would destroy the Saints. FACT.
I just played it on whatifsports and the saints won 20-13. I only played once and it was the answer.
This post was edited on 1/4/12 at 7:16 pm
Posted on 1/4/12 at 7:12 pm to dukke v
Peej honest question here. How do you hide Fencik from the Saints? If you let Marshall cover Graham you lose the Bears best pass rusher. If you let him cover Graham it's gash city. Fencik Wilson and Marshall are what made that defense, you know it but I know you'll argue Mike.
ETA:
Shaun Gayle isn't the answer either.
ETA:
Shaun Gayle isn't the answer either.
This post was edited on 1/4/12 at 7:14 pm
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