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Company pitching laser first-down system visible in NFL stadiums

Posted on 1/23/13 at 1:36 am
Posted by Bench McElroy
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Posted on 1/23/13 at 1:36 am
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Fans watching NFL games on television have grown accustomed to the imaginary yellow line that runs across the field in accord with the first-down marker.

That first-down line could one day become part of the in-game experience at all 32 NFL stadiums.

Alan Amron, with financial backing from former NFL player and broadcaster Pat Summerall, has developed the First Down Laser System. Amron said the system projects a first-down line across the field that can be seen in the stadium and on TV.


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Posted by Nonetheless
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 1/23/13 at 1:40 am to
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financial backing from former NFL player and broadcaster Pat Summerall,


I didn't know Summerall had racks like that
This post was edited on 1/23/13 at 1:42 am
Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
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18634 posts
Posted on 1/23/13 at 1:44 am to
Literally a gamechanger.
Posted by UKWildcatsFAN
Bowling Green
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5690 posts
Posted on 1/23/13 at 2:01 am to
Goddamn I got bored within the first 10 seconds of his monitone voice.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/23/13 at 2:38 am to
I wanna see a laser become the official marker. I hope one day we see all aspects of sports officiating computerized and robotic, with near 100% accuracy. frick the human aspect. Get the call right.
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Posted by MagillaGuerilla
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/23/13 at 3:07 am to
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I wanna see a laser become the official marker. I hope one day we see all aspects of sports officiating computerized and robotic, with near 100% accuracy. frick the human aspect. Get the call right.



Why stop there?

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Posted by LSUAce007
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 1/23/13 at 3:17 am to
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Why stop there?

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Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 1/23/13 at 3:18 am to
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Summerall had racks like that


thought he spent it all on booze

eta: Anyone else remember on madden when you did a franchise and you got like 15 years if you could upgrade the stadium with hologram goal post
This post was edited on 1/23/13 at 3:20 am
Posted by SmellslikeKevinBacon
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/23/13 at 7:11 am to
This is a great idea, but I would take it a step further. I always thought they should place a small sensor inside the ball. Then place some type of monitoring system on the sidelines or even onto the overhead cameras. This system could tie into a computer in the replay booth that could accurately spot the ball, tell if it crossed the goaline and maybe even detect whether the touched the ground when a receiver catches. The replay booth official could call down to the field after every play and tel them exactly where to spot the ball or the Head ref could carry ansmart phone or something like it that would show him on a display where the ball was down at.Thus taking all the guess work out of these types of calls and ball spots. With all the technology out there I think they could eliminate the human factor of a lot of calls in football as it is.
This post was edited on 1/23/13 at 7:15 am
Posted by Vood
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/23/13 at 7:18 am to
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detect whether the touched the ground when a receiver catches.


After seeing the Douglas "catch" cleary hit the ground and move around in the Falcons/49ers game, it seems like they need to determine what a catch really is.

Posted by stout
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Posted on 1/23/13 at 7:20 am to
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I always thought they should place a small sensor inside the ball



They go through 20-40 balls a game. That would be a nightmare.
Posted by slinger1317
Northshore
Member since Sep 2005
5788 posts
Posted on 1/23/13 at 7:22 am to
The article is from 2013, but the video shows Summerall in the old Texas stadium, which was torn down years ago. Looks like the technology came out years ago, and now they have it perfected enough to pitch to the league.

Awesome to hear Summerall's voice again. I grew up listening to him and Madden in the booth.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 1/23/13 at 7:23 am to
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Pat Summerall

How do ya feel about Ahman Greene, John?
Posted by GonzoLeslie
Alabama
Member since Sep 2011
3695 posts
Posted on 1/23/13 at 7:25 am to
about time. surprised it didnt happen ten years ago.

now, lets see if we can keep cameras at the goal line
Posted by 7thWardTiger
Richmond, Texas
Member since Nov 2009
24670 posts
Posted on 1/23/13 at 7:41 am to
Horrible idea. It takes away from a player having to have field awareness of where the first down marker is.
Posted by tress4pres
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
3855 posts
Posted on 1/23/13 at 8:12 am to
I doubt that the laser would always be visible. It would probably be put in position and turned on when they needed to measure.

My buddies and I were talking about this last year. Seems like it would be pretty simple to set up, especially by a survey company.

I don't think sensors in the ball is a good idea and it won't do anything but create more questions. Just because a ball is sensed at a certain spot doesn't mean that's where the ball should be marked.

Laser technology is the way to go for first down markings but there's no way to completely eliminate the human element from the equation.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 1/23/13 at 8:24 am to
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I didn't know Summerall had racks like that


Royalties from all the original Madden games will pad that bank account. I'm sure Madden hooked him up NIICE.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 1/23/13 at 8:28 am to
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Horrible idea. It takes away from a player having to have field awareness of where the first down marker is.


Or it adds to their field awareness. Isn't it awesome when they can see the goalline and its exact location and they do whatever they can to get there, even sacrificing their well-being? Well I think this line would be like that. A carrot-on-a-stick if you will. It will be so enticing that players will try harder to get there because they know its pinpoint location.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54132 posts
Posted on 1/23/13 at 8:37 am to
This was on that show Shark Tank a few months ago. Guy had pitched it to the league several years ago and got rejected. Made some improvements and pitched it on tv and got rejected, but told how to change it to make it where it had a good chance of success.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
420896 posts
Posted on 1/23/13 at 8:37 am to
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Just because a ball is sensed at a certain spot doesn't mean that's where the ball should be marked.

i may be giving up some million dollar idea, but a sensor "skin" around the outer 1/3 of each side would solve most every issue

it would cover

1. 1st downs
2. touchdowns
3. ball hitting ground

99.999% of the time
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