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re: Company pitching laser first-down system visible in NFL stadiums

Posted on 1/23/13 at 8:39 am to
Posted by wish i was tebow
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Posted on 1/23/13 at 8:39 am to
So the sensor in the ball tells you when the players knee was down??
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/23/13 at 8:42 am to
that's up for human judgement, but once the ball is placed on the ground there won't be a need to measure
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 1/23/13 at 8:44 am to
I like the sensor idea just for goal lines.

Once it crosses a green light or something goes off near the play clock so the refs can see it.

Then they review to make sure they had possession as they crossed.

The laser would eliminate the first down measurement on its own, correct?
Posted by hg
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Posted on 1/23/13 at 8:50 am to
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This post was edited on 1/23/13 at 8:54 am
Posted by Captain Ron
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Posted on 1/23/13 at 8:53 am to
They should be designing a laser strike zone.
Posted by 7thWardTiger
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Posted on 1/23/13 at 8:55 am to
Goal lines and out of bounds lines are different monsters than the first down marker.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 1/23/13 at 8:58 am to
quote:

They should be designing a laser strike zone.


tough when every player has different strike zone and it changes mid windup and swing when they crouch/squat.

Would be very, very hard I believe.
Posted by wish i was tebow
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Posted on 1/23/13 at 9:01 am to
I just don't really see what the helps. Still have to review etc.

Just seems like a waste of money since it doesn't matter where the ball ended up its where it was when knee is down.


Hg-

Gronk would be screwed and not care or even know
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/23/13 at 9:02 am to
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tough when every player has different strike zone and it changes mid windup and swing when they crouch/squat.

well you have one axis set with the plate

isn't it knees to shoulders? just put some chip in the uniform. max value for shoulder x and min value for knee chip

have the projection from the uniform cross reference with that of the plate and you have a 3D strike zone at all times
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
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Posted on 1/23/13 at 9:05 am to
I don't know why this took so long. You can utilize this at the goal lines and for first downs. Out in a chip or sensor in each end of the ball so as soon as it crosses it will register.
All of these obvious misjudgments with simple measurements are nuts in today's day and age
Posted by tress4pres
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Posted on 1/23/13 at 9:05 am to
I don't see it. Too many question marks and unknowns. How can a sensor tell you if a ball hits the ground if it's already in contact with a player's hands? Also don't see how it could sense touchdowns unless it's set up like a security system or electric fence concept. A laser device covers this. It would still have to be linked into a timing chip and accuracy would have to be insane.
Posted by tress4pres
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Posted on 1/23/13 at 9:06 am to
I don't see it. Too many question marks and unknowns. How can a sensor tell you if a ball hits the ground if it's already in contact with a player's hands? Also don't see how it could sense touchdowns unless it's set up like a security system or electric fence concept. A laser device covers this. It would still have to be linked into a timing chip and accuracy would have to be insane.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 1/23/13 at 9:11 am to
quote:

well you have one axis set with the plate

isn't it knees to shoulders? just put some chip in the uniform. max value for shoulder x and min value for knee chip

have the projection from the uniform cross reference with that of the plate and you have a 3D strike zone at all times


Knees and around belly button I believe. Its really up to the umpire which is part of baseball. Some have small strike zones, some have huge ones.

I get that people hate that, but its kind of fun to watch a pitcher or batter adjust to that.

Also, they go through tons of balls in a game AND putting chips in players uniforms will inevitably lead to cheating. We all know thats the one thing baseball players are damn good at.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 1/23/13 at 9:12 am to
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Also don't see how it could sense touchdowns unless it's set up like a security system or electric fence concept.


Thats what I'm thinking for goallines. That would be easy as hell for some engineer to make and cheap for teams to install it.

Posted by bamafan425
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Posted on 1/23/13 at 9:16 am to
The ball doesn't always cross with the either end first. You would have to create a layer of sensors around the WHOLE ball for it to be accurate.

I saw this laser idea on some show on History Channel. It was similar, except a laser was attached to the chains and only used when measurements came up.

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