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re: Clemson Lineman reminds people they don’t pay for free

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Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
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Posted on 1/15/19 at 4:15 pm to
Yeah but I couldn’t think of a well known single owner small business off the top of my head. The point is the vast majority of these kids are getting 60k plus in benefits, and the opportunity to increase said income exponentially in sports or through education. Absolutely nowhere else in the world do they have the opportunity to make that outside of the ncaa so I’d say they are compensated well above market value for their service
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162129 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 4:15 pm to
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But let’s not act like the scale is tipped in the athletes favor when it comes to the NCAA/CFB.


its a fun sound byte and all but the people who give it typically don't offer up any solutions of exactly you'd go about paying them. It's a pretty complex issue.
Posted by Falco
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 1/15/19 at 4:27 pm to
They get more than some athletes want to admit, however, they don't get a fair piece when it comes to what the NCAA makes. There is no way you can pay them unless you take away some sports because the NCAA would essentially go broke by that idea. Possibly something like 15k a year for football players but make them pay for their own apartments may be a start and leave everything for free for other sports since they don't bring in the money.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 4:43 pm to
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meh, yeah he got that stuff. He still wasn't fairly compensated.
A few players don't get a fair compensation, but the vast majority get overly compensated.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36475 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 4:51 pm to
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however, they don't get a fair piece when it comes to what the NCAA makes


whats fair?


Where else can Blake Fergurson of LSU make 60K+ per year for his football skills?

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78293 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 4:57 pm to
Where else can any of them?

Not the NFL
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 1/15/19 at 4:58 pm to
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Major college football is the one sector in this country that tells ppl “You need to wait 3 years to profit off of your ability”. Meanwhile they make their money annually and stripe kids of their ability to make a buck for the stupidest reasons (Ex. The UCF kicker that lost his schalorship for having a popular YouTube page).


This is going to change. The schools make billions, and the kids sacrifice their brains and bodies for some “benefits” that don’t cost the schools jack shite. Downvote away conservative southern football fan.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
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101398 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 4:59 pm to
You can tell who the Patriots that love their country and their beautiful President are, and who the SJW losers are
Posted by Falco
Member since Dec 2018
2216 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 4:59 pm to
That is what needs to be determined, obviously QB's and skill position players are seen more and would demand more money. NCAA would have to determine what is fair with everything else these athletes get.
Posted by engvol
england
Member since Sep 2009
5307 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 5:06 pm to
At the end of Last Chance U when they show you Isiah wrights Cory case, his cousin says his gets a monthly stipend of $1500(I think it maybe 1600), so they are on over 15k a year tax free
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36475 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 5:11 pm to
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QB's and skill position players are seen more


Oh so we aren’t discussing “fairness” anymore we are talking market value. Where can Joe Burrow make 60k+ for his football skills?
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36475 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 5:13 pm to
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some “benefits” that don’t cost the schools jack shite


So the health coverage they get is nothing? That’s a massive benefit considering. Also the minimum wage bezos pays his maid doesn’t put a dent in Bezos pocket. That doesn’t mean the maid deserves a 500k salary
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 5:16 pm to
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“benefits” that don’t cost the schools jack shite


If none of that shite costs money then why do so few athletic departments turn a profit?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297195 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 5:17 pm to
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He still wasn't fairly compensated.


Evidently he was.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91362 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 5:26 pm to
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A few players don't get a fair compensation, but the vast majority get overly compensated.



Yeah, if college football players were unionized, I doubt they'd get a better deal than they are currently getting. That's also ignoring the fact what's good for a male scholarship athlete must be good for a female scholarship athlete too.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91362 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 5:28 pm to
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This is going to change. The schools make billions, and the kids sacrifice their brains and bodies for some “benefits” that don’t cost the schools jack shite. Downvote away conservative southern football fan.



, if you think colleges will pay athletes anymore than they currently do now, you're fooling yourself.

The only practical change is to let them make money outside of the school. That presumably would skirt the Title IX issues that cause every other idea to be DOA.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Member since Nov 2011
68807 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 5:32 pm to
They’ll get a cut of some of that billion dollar pie
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91362 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 5:33 pm to
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They’ll get a cut of some of that billion dollar pie




It won't happen from the schools or the NCAA because it's not feasible with Title IX. It's pretty simple.
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
5527 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 5:43 pm to
Should just be a option for players...

1. Take the scholarship and all that comes with it
or
2. Take 60k for a season
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44187 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 5:47 pm to
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I’d be willing to bet that Clemson came out ahead in this situation.


I don't know if you win that bet.

Clemson's athletic department had $111,126,235 in expenses last year. While they did have revenue of $112,600,694, 4.6% or just over $5 million came from the general fund&student fees.
The only reason why Clemson wasn't in the red was because of tax payers and students.

Just 14 public universities were able to show a profit, while not taking any money from the general fund and/or student fees for athletics. (Penn State, Ohio State, LSU, Texas, Texas A&M, Tennessee, Kentucky, South Carolina, Arkansas, Mississippi State, Nebraska, OKlahoma, Purdue, and California)

UCONN and UMASS by comparison need a combined $79 million to balance their books.
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