re: Chris Rock explains how baseball got so white and old

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This applies to all sports. And since we are talking about black athletes in baseball, there is a direct correlation.

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Well no because then participation among black athletes would be down across the board, which it isn't.

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That doesn't mean there's no way you learn baseball if your dad isn't there. You need your dad to teach you how to break in a glove and hold bat but football and basketball apparently just comes to kids like a 6th sense? You need a dad to teach you to throw and catch a baseball but not football? Come on.

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I didn't say no way. It's less like you will play baseball without a strong male role model helping teach you the game. Basketball and Football, at an entry level, are easier to pickup than baseball by watching. They are sports based on simpler athleticism. I can throw my 4 yr old a basketball or football and he will catch it. When I throw him a baseball, it's less like he will. If I pitch him a baseball without putting his hands correctly on the bat, he doesn't have a good chance of hitting it.

Anyone can bounce a basketball or throw a football.

This isn't a race thing. The white kids with absentee fathers(male role models) don't do much better. It's just that more white kids come from stable homes.

You can doubt me all you want, but as black marriage rates go down, and black incarceration rates go up, black participation rates in youth baseball have dropped.

Anecdotally, I have personally observed the trend for 13.years now.

But...a father and son playing catch!!!!

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I think we are on different wavelengths. I'm saying that 20 year olds who like the NBA don't like it anymore when the "kids" take over when they're 50

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No, I'm saying if that's the case, he won't just start following baseball because that's what old guys. do if he doesn't like it now or didn't play it as a kid chances are slim he'll become a fan at 50. It's not like baseball was always the "old guys" game. It was a game that kids always loved and followed it but that has been declining and that's an issue for Baseball. Their avg fan is getting older, because there are fewer young people that follow it.

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I played soccer for one year as a kid and I sucked, and I watched every second of the World Cup last year. If you would have told me 20 years ago that I'd be watching soccer, I would have laughed.

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I didn't play soccer, and I'm with you, i also enjoyed the WC last year, but the WC is different. It's an event and you can root for the USA USA USA. It's like the Olympics, I can get into it for a couple of weeks and go back to not caring for 4 years.

I mean are you watching the EPL, following the Champions Cup?

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So, it's OK for you to post racist shite, but we can't? If I posted how did the NBA get so black, you'd jump up my arse

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Gonna have to agree with this sentiment here.

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Funny Roberto Clemente was considered an African American baseball player, David Ortiz is not currently

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They used Bob Clemente on some of his cards to make him sound American.

Baseball sucks.

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There are two types of people in this world: those who love baseball and those who do not understand it.

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You sound just like one of those soccer figs when they defend their boring 3rd world sport

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They used Bob Clemente on some of his cards to make him sound American.

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They could have used Bobby Clement and make him sound like a Coonass.

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Baseball you need quite a few people and they all have to have gloves and bats and balls and cleats

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That's not true. They definitely don't need cleats if the poor kids playing football don't. They don't all need bats - only one of them does. They don't all need a ball - only one of them does. They don't all need gloves - only half of them do. Also, if you don't need a ton of kids to play football, then you don't for baseball either.

Somehow kids in the DR figure out how to play. Kids now in the US, don't want to play baseball.