re: CFP director tells fans upset over playoff expansion to pound sand

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But sure, make your argument about how its better while they talk down to you and make sure they get as much as possible and give zero shites about the final product.

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I don’t care how much money they make, I care about watching exciting football and they’re providing that.

Ask yourself, are you more inclined to watch the #24 team play in a playoff game, or watch that same team play in the San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia Bowl?

I have a wild idea. How about a 64-team tournament? And to make it more exciting, they could add 4 MORE teams that pair off and play each other for the right to make the the final 64.

And if THAT'S not enough excitement, they could eventually expand it to 76 teams.

Now. Too crazy. No one would ever do anything like that.

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Tell me with a 24 team playoff in College if an 8-4 OSU (Okie St.) or a 9-3 New Mexico team has a legit shot.

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So a championship is what everyone cares about, but y’all are all bitching about what this does to the regular season. Make up your mind.

We also heard for the past decade that there are too many bowls and the bowls are meaningless. But now you’d rather watch Okie State vs. New Mexico in the Gasparilla Bowl? Instead of a playoff game? Again, make up your mind.

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CFB fans will continue to watch. This is why there's no incentive to improve the product in college and the NFL because they know we'll all keep watching

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...for now.

All these retards making decisions should look at NASCAR to see how quickly a product can go absolutely extinct. Up through the early 2000s NASCAR was a wildly passionate affair with rabid fans all over the SE united states. It was a BIG DEAL. Then the suits in charge thought "hmmmm...obviously there's a good thing happening here but only a quarter of the country is involved...how can we make non-southerns tune in so we can make more money?" Then little by little they made little changes here, little changes there to try to broaden the appeal. The end result was that they totally bastardaized and changed what made it a solid product in the first place and turned it into something completely differnet and unrecognizable. Now they've driven off the foundational base that grew it to begin with and most of the new people they tried to cater to are indifferent.

Obviously CFB isn't nascar, and you'll still have some higher level of loyalty being that people can actually attend a university and have that personal tie to it. But all these MASSIVE, MAJOR changes have totally altered the sport. It WILL eventaully drive away a shite ton of peopel because this new frankenstein version of the sport isn't what they've grown up watching and following. It won't happen in 5 years but at some point peopel are going to be fed up.

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Stealing this from another poster but we went from four months of exciting games to one month

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What a ridiculous argument. Y’all are acting like teams won’t even need to win games anymore.

Take a look at the slate of games this weekend. Now imagine next year, when all the teams in the 16-30 range are all fighting to keep their spot or jump into the playoff throughout the month of November. That doesn’t excite you?

For example, how would a current #22 vs. #24 be MORE exciting without the playoff implications? It wouldn’t, it would just be another game for teams trying to make the Gator Bowl. Now those teams are fighting for a playoff spot!

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The expanded playoffs to 12 has been a blessing for CFB. I listen to some of the shows on the College Radio channel on Sirius XM in the morning and there is so much discussion and talking points around this season. It's chaos and there are so many teams in the running for a playoff spot. It's wide open and there are so many games down the stretch that are defacto play in games that will have a reverberating impact across CFB.

That said, 24 is probably a bridge too far. I'm a fan of 12, you could talk me into 16, but 24 is too much.

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It hasn't been a blessing at all - it just ramped up frustration among fans and growing distrust of those running CFB, which is starting to show in attendance numbers. These shows need material to talk about and they all know their jobs depend on creating narratives, drama, and controversy. They are not a useful barometer for the health of the sport.

Four has always been the right number and the only reasonable expansion would be to eight. People think there is increased parity but that won't last long. A natural order will emerge just as before, with movement into and out of the top tier being gradual.

Wrong. In years past, the only teams that would get any discussion this time of year were the usuals, Alabama, Ohio State, Clemson, one other. It got freaking old and stale when only a handful of schools got covered, a handful of schools played any meaningful games.

Now there are meaningful games involving about 20 teams this weekend. 2&3 loss teams are in a de facto playoffs right now. There are many games that matter now instead of just the handful of top 5 teams.

This will keep more fan bases engaged across the country with many games with meaning to be played.

No it doesn’t

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No it doesn’t

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You’re not making any sense. Games with playoff implications are more exciting than those without. That’s an objective fact.