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re: Bynum should be suspended for the entire next season!

Posted on 5/9/11 at 4:16 pm to
Posted by offdacorner
Member since Feb 2009
1853 posts
Posted on 5/9/11 at 4:16 pm to
quote:

He obviously hasn't even seen the fight, just came up with his opinion based off something he read on the internet or somewhere.


I haven't seen the fight in quite some time--but I saw the fight. Everybody's seen that fight. I guess I could probably just pull it up on Youtube--ya think?

But I'll admit that I didn't remember every detail correctly. And after watching it again, you are right--Rudy T didn't reach out to grab Washington.

But I still believe that when Washington turned around and saw Rudy T rushing at him, he thought Tomjanovic was coming at him from behind. I feel that he thought he was defending himself.

So if K Washington got the hammer brought down on him for violently defending himself during the heat of the moment, then Bynum should have the hammer brought down on him for violently cheap shotting someone--during a routine play.

K Washington's main downfall was that he landed the perfect punch--and Rudy suffered a horrific injury.

But one day, somebody is going to land the perfect cheap shot--and someone will suffer probably an even more horrific injury.

NBA players these days know that they can assault each other during a game with absolutely no fear of the consequences. And unfortunately, as a result, someone is going to have their career ended or worse.

Baseball players can defend themselves and their teammates.

Hockey players can defend themselves and their teammates.

Football players can defend themselves and their teammates.

Why doesn't David Stern want NBA players to defend themselves or their teammates?

The NBA needs to be doing all it can to discourage these guys from the kind of action Bynum took the other night. They need to start suspending these guys either until their wallet hurts or during the postseason(if they make it of course).
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30116 posts
Posted on 5/9/11 at 5:00 pm to
not reading the thread...

but Bynum's move was the biggest pussy move I've seen in maybe any NBA game I have been alive for.

The Kermit Washington thing was in the middle of a brawl.

As much as Odom's move was bitch, it wasn't malicious, Dirk made it look worse, and he picked on someone his size.

I love how Bynum throws an elbow into a defenseless guy who is over foot shorter than him, and several pounds lighter.

Bynum has ridden coattails of Pau and Kobe to achieve his status as a "champion", and then pulls this shite on Phil Jackson's supposed last game?

What a fricking pussy. Seriously...
Posted by LSUpsychWARD
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2007
4379 posts
Posted on 5/9/11 at 5:02 pm to
quote:

The NBA needs to be doing all it can to discourage these guys from the kind of action Bynum took the other night. They need to start suspending these guys either until their wallet hurts or during the postseason(if they make it of course).



Nah, I didn't pay attention to the playoffs at all after the Lakers ended the Hornets' bid, until now. Its not that big of a deal, bigger hits happen in playoff hockey every game, every football game, baseball players get brushed back, intentionally hit, spiked, etc.... adrenaline+frustration+testosterone will lead to things like this. I understand the size differential and no pads but the guy isn't seriously injured and that is pretty much the barometer in any suspension anyway. The ratings for this series would have doubled or tripled had Bynum done this game 1 or 2.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115433 posts
Posted on 5/9/11 at 6:41 pm to
He should get 20 games (essentially 1/4 of a season) and the suspension should start when he is physically able to play (I heard that he was likely to have a surgery in the off-season and he should not be able to eat up any suspension with recovery time).

It was a chicken-shite, thug move; however, even participants in the Auburn Hills brawl were not given an entire season.
Posted by Akit1
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2006
8344 posts
Posted on 5/9/11 at 7:26 pm to
My opinion of the guy has 100% changed. Worst foul (if you could call it that) I've ever seen. It's something straight out of the hood or an intense intramurals game. It's embarrassing for him and the Lakers. You got swept, you sent your coach out with a 36 point humiliation and to top it off you left the court with no dignity.

I think it'll only be 10 games.
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 1:40 am to
quote:

Why doesn't David Stern want NBA players to defend themselves or their teammates?



-because he'd rather emphasize speed and skill over force?
-because fans are much closer to the action
-because history shows that players might go into stands,knock out other players-you know since they don't have the body armor that hockey and football players have or that coaches might be involved and could get hurt trying to break up the fight?

quote:

They need to start suspending these guys either until their wallet hurts or during the postseason(if they make it of course).


They do.which is why Bynum doesn't deserve a year long suspension.
Posted by NewGuy01
Internet
Member since Nov 2008
4243 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 10:04 am to
Funniest part of this whole thing that hasn't yet been mentioned:

Even with the flying elbow, Bynum couldn't stop the layup.
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 10:41 am to
There are a lot of prepubescent ninnies typing in this thread...

that type of stuff was run of the mill in the 80's' Pistons vs. Celtics vs. Bulls vs. Knicks. Laimbeer, Mahorn, Oakley, Parish, Bird vs. Dr. J.
Posted by JG77056
Vegas baby, Vegas
Member since Sep 2010
12077 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 11:49 am to
You know what else was common in the 80s? Players leaving the bench to defend a teammate that got cheapshotted. But now if you stand up and leave the bench area you're suspended for the next game.

Also, shorts are a lot longer now than they were in the 80s. The game has changed, and that was bush league, plain and simple.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38261 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 1:25 pm to
As much as I hate the Lakers, and see how anything intended to hurt someone else is never a good thing, I can see where he's coming from. It's pretty hard to control your emotions like that when you know you are going to get bounced in 5 mins from the playoffs in a total and complete embarrassment. I'm sure it was just frustration.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30331 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

that type of stuff was run of the mill in the 80's'


evidence?
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

evidence?



Being alive in the 80s and watching hoops is all you need. There were harder fouls than that in almost every single playoff game.
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31984 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

hat type of stuff was run of the mill in the 80's

which is why guys who PLAYED in that era still called the play out as being bush league?
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60932 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 1:52 pm to
I can't believe this dumb thread is still going but just because a player from the 80's "called him out" doesn't mean they didn't do it themselves. Magic Johnson went off on Bynum and he did the same thing to Isiah Thomas.

Starting at 1:19
LINK
This post was edited on 5/10/11 at 1:53 pm
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37526 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 1:53 pm to
quote:



that type of stuff was run of the mill in the 80's' Pistons vs. Celtics vs. Bulls vs. Knicks. Laimbeer, Mahorn, Oakley, Parish, Bird vs. Dr. J.



not at the end of the series when the last game was out of reach

it would have happened early in the series to send a message or early in a game to intimidate

the end of the game "please throw me out" foul is a different thing
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30331 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 2:01 pm to
quote:

Being alive in the 80s and watching hoops is all you need.


That's what I thought.
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31984 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

the end of the game "please throw me out" foul is a different thing

this. it was something artest or rodman would do
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12536 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

Being alive in the 80s and watching hoops is all you need. There were harder fouls than that in almost every single playoff game.


How long ago were the 80s? 30 years? Kthkxbai.

Bynum wasn't even BORN.
Posted by fastedLSU
BR
Member since Sep 2007
4477 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 2:05 pm to
Police in Montreal are reportedly looking into a brutal hit by the Boston Bruins’ Zdeno Chara on the Montreal Canadiens’ Max Pacioretty. The hit produced a major penalty and game misconduct, but did not result in a suspension, even though Pacioretty suffered a concussion and broken vertebrae. I suspect the NHL’s failure to discipline Chara is one reason Montreal authorities are contemplating action. According to ESPN, Pacioretty said he thinks the NHL let Chara off light, but thinks criminal prosecution would be unwarranted: “I have no desire for him to be prosecuted legally. I feel that the incident, as ugly as it was, was part of a hockey game.”


This guy wasnt even suspended and could face criminal prosecution. Would you feel differently if JJ fell on his head and was seriously injured.

Secondly, can a player be suspended for post season games prior to the season instead of the first regular season games?
This post was edited on 5/10/11 at 2:18 pm
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31984 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

Secondly, can a player be suspended for post season games prior to the season instead of the first regular season games?

in the current CBA i think Stern can do whatever the hell he wants. that may change before next basketball season
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