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re: Boise State's Bowl Record since 2004
Posted on 8/8/10 at 10:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 8/8/10 at 10:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
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the MWC is typically a 2-team conference also
but instead of UT and OU, it's 2 of BYU, TCU, and Utah
My point exactly then...the Big 12 being a BCS conference doesn't make it automatically head and shoulders better.
Like I've said, I'm in complete agreement about BSU...but the fact that they're not in a BCS conference is irrelevant to me. I would feel the same about a team in a weak BCS conference with a weak OOC schedule getting into the title game. They'd be effectively working the system just as BSU does.
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Posted on 8/8/10 at 10:08 pm to tubucoco
he'd have to change his philosophy in a big way
if he tried to do at LSU what he's doing at BSU, we'll become a slightly better version of Colorado
if he tried to do at LSU what he's doing at BSU, we'll become a slightly better version of Colorado
Posted on 8/8/10 at 10:08 pm to H-Town Tiger
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In 1980 they played 7 home games, but did play at LSU and Nebraska. In 81 they had 5 strait road games, ready for this: Nebraska, Ohio State, Pitt (an elite program at the time) Notre Dame, LSU
anybody anytime anywhere
Boise has basically been pussy footing its way around
Posted on 8/8/10 at 10:09 pm to Obi-Wan Tiger
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a team in a weak BCS conference with a weak OOC schedule
those 8 conference games are still against vastly superior talent
BSU wears down in teh fricking WAC
Posted on 8/8/10 at 10:10 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Nebraska, Ohio State, Pitt (an elite program at the time) Notre Dame, LSU
that's seriously more legit OOC teams than BSU has played...maybe ever
Posted on 8/8/10 at 10:11 pm to tubucoco
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dude does a lot with what he has!
yea but what he has would not last in the weekly grind of a BCS conference. Take that team put them in the BCS conference and they are beat up half way through the year.
Posted on 8/8/10 at 10:12 pm to H-Town Tiger
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This is unture. Bowden started at FSU in 1976, his first 3 years they played 5 home games and 6 road. His first home game as FSU coach was on OCTOBER 2, 1976, it was their 4th game and week earlier they were at Oklahoma.
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In 1980 they played 7 home games, but did play at LSU and Nebraska. In 81 they had 5 strait road games, ready for this: Nebraska, Ohio State, Pitt (an elite program at the time) Notre Dame, LSU
That's what I've been trying to say also...it's really no comparison. And even the games that were at home were against a lot of quality competiton, which BSU can't say.
Posted on 8/8/10 at 10:13 pm to The Boat
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You're welcome. Boise State is a joke.
FWIW, just out of curiousity, I looked at your list some more (and even added the bowl games against BCS teams in that time, in which Boise is 2-1, so I helped them out a little). Boise's combined winning percentage from 99-09 is 86%. Their BCS opponents' combined winning percentage is 62%, nearly 25% worse. Boise's record, though, in those games, is 6-11. Says it all.
Posted on 8/8/10 at 10:14 pm to Obi-Wan Tiger
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.the Big 12 being a BCS conference doesn't make it automatically head and shoulders bette
apples and oranges. Teams like A&M or Colorado who have struggled of late in the Big 12 get vastly better talent that mid to bottom level MWC and WAC teams.
Posted on 8/8/10 at 10:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
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BSU wears down in teh fricking WAC
I'm talking TCU and/or Utah...either of those teams rolls the ACC pretty much any of the last several years.
Posted on 8/8/10 at 10:16 pm to Obi-Wan Tiger
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either of those teams rolls the ACC pretty much any of the last several years.
TCU played 2 ACC teams last year
16 point win at a horrible UVA team
4 point win against Clemson
Posted on 8/8/10 at 10:20 pm to Obi-Wan Tiger
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That's what I've been trying to say also...it's really no compariso
yeah, I don't know what that guy was talking about. In Bosie's defense that type of scheduling would not be feasible today. In the 70's and 80's there were more independents and teams in conferences were usually playing 6 or maybe 7 conference games
Posted on 8/8/10 at 10:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
Just saying, it's a horribly weak league (in football obviously). 9 teams with 5 or more losses.
TCU dominated that game...it was 30-0 late in the 4th
that won their division
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16 point win at a horrible UVA team
TCU dominated that game...it was 30-0 late in the 4th
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4 point win against Clemson
that won their division
This post was edited on 8/8/10 at 10:26 pm
Posted on 8/8/10 at 10:25 pm to H-Town Tiger
Look at FSU schedule 76-77
Played Clemson, Auburn, MSU, Miami, Florida, USM, etc in Tallahassee
K State was a pushover then so it didnt matter where they played them.
In 77 there 2 losses were San Diego St at SDSU and Miami at home.
Played Clemson, Auburn, MSU, Miami, Florida, USM, etc in Tallahassee
K State was a pushover then so it didnt matter where they played them.
In 77 there 2 losses were San Diego St at SDSU and Miami at home.
This post was edited on 8/8/10 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 8/8/10 at 10:29 pm to H-Town Tiger
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In Bosie's defense that type of scheduling would not be feasible today
yeah no doubt...and it's pretty much economically impossible for a program to be an independent outside of ND and a few others...UT perhaps.
Posted on 8/8/10 at 10:30 pm to sms151t
so a schedule put together before Bobby got there.
Posted on 8/8/10 at 10:35 pm to StraightCashHomey21
then look at 79
he played 4 road games and 1 nuetral game and only 3 games out of florida
they lost to ou in orange bowl.
Bowden made that scedule.
The only ranked team they played was Miss State, who was 20 at the time and ended up being 3-8, until losing Orange Bowl.
he played 4 road games and 1 nuetral game and only 3 games out of florida
they lost to ou in orange bowl.
Bowden made that scedule.
The only ranked team they played was Miss State, who was 20 at the time and ended up being 3-8, until losing Orange Bowl.
This post was edited on 8/8/10 at 10:36 pm
Posted on 8/8/10 at 10:35 pm to Obi-Wan Tiger
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that won their division
but they didn't "roll" clemson, and clemson didn't roll the ACC
This post was edited on 8/8/10 at 10:36 pm
Posted on 8/8/10 at 10:38 pm to Obi-Wan Tiger
Obi I will give you the 80's have already conceeded that, but when they first started at FSU he played at home and scheduled as such.
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