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re: Bill Snyder: College football has sold itself out to the highest bidder

Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:00 pm to
Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:00 pm to
Bill rustle you?
Posted by Tiger Ross
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:00 pm to
I feel he's right, but he's remained part of the system. It is all about money, and he has benefited greatly. Hypocritacal.
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:02 pm to
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Bill rustle you?


No.

My apologies for being intelligent...
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
65480 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:17 pm to
Never cared a ton for Snyder. What he has done in his second tenure at Kansas State has really impressed me, but it always rubbed me the wrong way that he always scheduled very weak non-conference opponents and was never shy about putting up 60-70 points on those overmatched teams.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:17 pm to
FBS athletics are a sham. Particularly football and basketball. Kids who don't qualify get academic waivers to attend, and they get all kind of special help to get through their "classes." He's right. The "student athlete" is just a myth.
Posted by LooseCannon22282
South Alabama Fan
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:20 pm to
He's right and wrong I think.

Respect his take though.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:22 pm to
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What was it supposed to do, Bill? Stay the same as it was in the 70's...80's?

Things change, evolve, innovate - NCAAFB was/is one of those things.

He says CFB sold out, I think it improved upon the product and made it more available to the fans, which would never have happened if not for TV.

He says the welfare of the student-athlete has not evolved, but I disagree. Look at how the equipment, treatment, and overall care has gotten better from a decade ago, two-decades ago, etc. This is the Golden Age of college football right now - it's never been better for the kids, schools, fans, and networks.

Could the kids get paid, sure, but that's a massive snake pit that needs to be untangled meticulously. But I think they're in the process of doing that.

Bill comes off more as someone that time has pretty much passed-by, and from a program that is largely irrelevant. Besides, those dollars and cents that he preaches about from the pulpit do get distributed to the universities, as well. And those dollars help build student-athlete learning centers, provide for scholarships, and contribute to school funds in general.

Maybe it's Bill that has not evolved...not college football, and Bill is just stuck in the middle of the country, in a state that couldn't really care any less for football, not really knowing how to bring it all to an end


who are you and what have you done with Rummy ?
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:27 pm to
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who are you and what have you done with Rummy ?


:suckmyballs:
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:29 pm to
welcome back
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
7593 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:35 pm to
One has to ask the question: What is the point of college? I would say it's to put yourself into a situation to create opportunities for your future. That can happen in many different ways for many different people.

Let's get off this idea that education is just about studies and curriculum learned. If I go to college and play a sport and am a below average student, but I leverage that opportunity into a multitude of new opportunities and a new network because of my playing experience then I would say that's better then the phd in philosophy who has fantastic knowledge of the subject but can literally do nothing with his education except teach philosophy.
Posted by High C
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:39 pm to
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Or that sitting in some fricking lecture hall listening to a professor for an hour will really change anything. 99% of guys likely learn more from the tutors they get than their actual professors.


Roh tie
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:40 pm to
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One has to ask the question: What is the point of college? I would say it's to put yourself into a situation to create opportunities for your future. That can happen in many different ways for many different people.

Let's get off this idea that education is just about studies and curriculum learned. If I go to college and play a sport and am a below average student, but I leverage that opportunity into a multitude of new opportunities and a new network because of my playing experience then I would say that's better then the phd in philosophy who has fantastic knowledge of the subject but can literally do nothing with his education except teach philosophy.


I agree.

Jobs didn't finish school, Dell didn't, Gates didn't...

They got what they needed/wanted out of it and left.

Besides, there are SO many more opportunities for the kids today that aren't turning pro, but they have to want to take advantage of those opportunities.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:27 pm to
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He's a hypocrite, trying to raise himself from the fray. Guess what Bill, those TV monies allow you to have your salary, which in turn allow you to buy the things you want.


telling it like it is doesn't make him a hypocrite. what's he supposed to do, turn his salary down? you are being way too harsh. he said he didn't have the answers.

Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
52437 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:41 pm to
I like Bill but....... welcome to 30 years ago.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:47 pm to
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Roh tie



Professors speaking to a lecture hall vs. tutors hired by the athletic department.

Of course there are some majors/classes that you will be behind in if you miss a class, but on average how many classes is a football player going to miss because a midweek away game? This isn't basketball.
Posted by UnAnon
Breaux Bridge
Member since Sep 2013
6614 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:50 am to
Kansas fricking loves sports in general. They have so it of great high school football games (bunch of big slow white boys, lot of teams run the wishbone and triple option)

But OKAY
Posted by Dalosaqy
I can't quite re
Member since Dec 2007
13468 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 2:47 am to
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Cfb is a nice volunteer semi pro league
fify
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 4:21 am to
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He moved their game against AU in 2014 to a Thursday for exposure. He is being hypocritical.


Well that's false...

LINK

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There are mixed views on when the game should be played. When asked about the possibility of moving the Auburn game to a Thursday, K-State coach Bill Snyder last month said, “It’s the last thing in the world I want to do.”
Posted by dek81572
Bossier City
Member since Apr 2012
1514 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 6:06 am to
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I mean...if you ain't first, you're last, Bill.


I was high when I told you that Reauxl. You can be 2nd, 3rd, 4th, hell, you can even be 5th!
Posted by gorillacoco
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
5327 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 6:24 am to
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One has to ask the question: What is the point of college? I would say it's to put yourself into a situation to create opportunities for your future. That can happen in many different ways for many different people. Let's get off this idea that education is just about studies and curriculum learned. If I go to college and play a sport and am a below average student, but I leverage that opportunity into a multitude of new opportunities and a new network because of my playing experience then I would say that's better then the phd in philosophy who has fantastic knowledge of the subject but can literally do nothing with his education except teach philosophy.


This argument is a reach at best. The fact is that the NCAA is effectively operating a semi pro league and the majority of the people making the sacrifices and doing the work are not getting paid in dollars. Sure they get some opportunities, but that's hardly equivalent to a salary.
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