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re: Bill Simmons Says Dennis Rodman Wasn't Interesting
Posted on 4/27/20 at 4:42 pm to RLDSC FAN
Posted on 4/27/20 at 4:42 pm to RLDSC FAN
He was interesting in the fact that, by Rodman's own admission "people don't understand me" & people WANTED to understand. They wanted to see what made him tick & what outlandish act he'd execute next.
That, by its very definition, is interesting...
That, by its very definition, is interesting...
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Posted on 4/27/20 at 4:42 pm to RLDSC FAN
Sure. If they had podcasts back then, those two guys would discuss Rodman to no end. But sure, he wasn’t “interesting”.
Posted on 4/27/20 at 4:44 pm to kciDAtaE
I think the argument Russilo was trying to make was that he’s hit one note for the last 20 years and the coverage of all that is saturated to the point where he doesn’t really care about another Rodman deep dive when there’s so much more other interesting things we have never seen going into the doc
Posted on 4/27/20 at 4:59 pm to RLDSC FAN
There are millions of people that party their arse off. The only thing that made Rodman different was he somehow partied at that level and was still able to be an elite basketball player.
Posted on 4/27/20 at 5:02 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
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The only thing that made Rodman different was he somehow partied at that level and was still able to be an elite basketball player.
I mean you could say that about everyone in this doc
especially Jordan
Posted on 4/27/20 at 5:12 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
Early in his career, Rodman was like the invisible guy on the court.
Nobody barely knew his name despite flying everywhere and getting rebounds.
He literally had to dye his hair and join the Bulls and then personal foul everyone to get known and noticed.
He was just a workman for the Bad Boys; the guy who steals the groceries. Then he goes to the Bulls and is like shite, I want to be known...let me start being outlandish in how I look. And since it was the 90's everyone was like OMG, he dyed his hair, he has a nose ring! He's a crazy man like Mike Tyson!
Both had nothing to say.
Nobody barely knew his name despite flying everywhere and getting rebounds.
He literally had to dye his hair and join the Bulls and then personal foul everyone to get known and noticed.
He was just a workman for the Bad Boys; the guy who steals the groceries. Then he goes to the Bulls and is like shite, I want to be known...let me start being outlandish in how I look. And since it was the 90's everyone was like OMG, he dyed his hair, he has a nose ring! He's a crazy man like Mike Tyson!
Both had nothing to say.
Posted on 4/27/20 at 6:35 pm to Salmon
quote:This doesn't make any sense to me.
And he made good points, basically that Rodman just did crazy stuff as an act and never said anything other than "people just don't understand me" but never tried to explain himself
So you can only be interesting based on things you say, not things you do? That's the logic they're stating, and it just doesn't make sense to me.
Posted on 4/27/20 at 6:36 pm to shel311
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So you can only be interesting based on things you say, not things you do? That's the logic they're stating, and it just doesn't make sense to me.
no they are also saying that the things he did wasn't interesting because it was all calculated and for a show
Posted on 4/27/20 at 6:37 pm to David Ricky
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And their take that they should’ve spent more time on Phil and far less time on Rodman.
I would’ve taken 3-4 episodes dedicated solely to Phil
Posted on 4/27/20 at 7:51 pm to RLDSC FAN
I always thought the most interesting thing about Rodman is the fact that he didn't even start playing competitive basketball until he was a grown man. He was 25 when he was drafted by the Pistons and he only had NAIA experience to that point. I can't fathom something similar to that happening now.
Posted on 4/27/20 at 8:22 pm to shel311
Russillo’s point was that Rodman did do interesting things 25 years ago. However, through all of the coverage including a 2 hour 30 for 30 Rodman himself has never given the public any reason for his behavior other than saying “I don’t care” and “I’m misunderstood, I’m a good teammate.”
They brought up the San Antonio situation where by all accounts he was an awful teammate who didn’t care. It was all in the context of The Rodman story has been covered a thousand times and he never gives any more info for his actions. They compared it to Jordan who has had more media coverage than anyone yet in this documentary is giving people new info in a very interesting light. I agree with that.
They brought up the San Antonio situation where by all accounts he was an awful teammate who didn’t care. It was all in the context of The Rodman story has been covered a thousand times and he never gives any more info for his actions. They compared it to Jordan who has had more media coverage than anyone yet in this documentary is giving people new info in a very interesting light. I agree with that.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 1:06 am to ThePistol
At that time Madonna was probably the most famous woan in the world and was fascinated by Rodman enough to want his baby. Carmen Electtra was probably one of the hottest women in the world wanted to marry him. It must be his personality, which led to his fame, they were into him because its not like anyone would ever find him good looking. I would say these two examples makes Rodman a very interesting person.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 1:14 am to BayouCatFan
Enough time on this site would have me think of one reason.
BBC.
BBC.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 7:47 am to ThePistol
You think Madonna and Carmen Electra were dating based on personality back in the 90s?
Posted on 4/28/20 at 8:02 am to ThePistol
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Russillo’s point was that Rodman did do interesting things 25 years ago. However, through all of the coverage including a 2 hour 30 for 30 Rodman himself has never given the public any reason for his behavior other than saying “I don’t care” and “I’m misunderstood, I’m a good teammate.”
He doesn’t owe the public a reason for his behavior and he probably can’t give one, the guy has serious mental issues from his upbringing. I’m not sure what Russillo wants or expects.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 8:18 am to floridatigah
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He doesn’t owe the public a reason for his behavior and he probably can’t give one, the guy has serious mental issues from his upbringing. I’m not sure what Russillo wants or expects.
Doesn’t want anything. Just doesn’t move the needle for him unless Rodman wants to uncover something new that hasn’t been covered 100 times already
Posted on 4/28/20 at 8:39 am to RLDSC FAN
Not related to Simmons but feel like some of the Rodman segments I’d already seen
Posted on 4/28/20 at 9:05 am to Salmon
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Russillo is the one that actually said it in the podcast
Russillo's point was we've had years of interviews where he's "you guys just don't understand me", and Russillo's like "ok, tell us then", and we'd get more "you just don't get it".
He wasn't discounting his upbringing and was sympathetic to it, but Rodman as a character was boring to him. And they both wished they had spent more time on Phil Jackson than on Rodman.
ETA Russillo also admitted that no one ever agrees with this take on him.
This post was edited on 4/28/20 at 9:07 am
Posted on 4/28/20 at 9:16 am to wildtigercat93
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Doesn’t want anything. Just doesn’t move the needle for him unless Rodman wants to uncover something new that hasn’t been covered 100 times already
The 30 for 30 on Rodman covered a lot of new stuff. A character like Rodman existing and thriving in the nba, especially with a polar opposite like mj, is undeniably interesting. I’ll have to listen to the pod but sounds like Bill and rr are reaching.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 9:20 am to floridatigah
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A character like Rodman existing and thriving in the nba, especially with a polar opposite like mj, is undeniably interesting
Another point they made on the pod: Rodman didn't work out in San Antonio because David Robinson was a good guy but wasn't the alpha dog that MJ was. MJ essentially told Rodman how it was going to go down and to get in line. Robinson didn't have that in him. Rodman still had his moments (taking off for Vegas during the season for a bender), but it worked because of MJ.
I've never been super interested in Rodman either. You figure him out as a public figure pretty easily and then it's not that tantalizing anymore.
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