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re: Biggest sports deaths
Posted on 1/26/20 at 10:07 pm to chRxis
Posted on 1/26/20 at 10:07 pm to chRxis
quote:Are you still trying to argue Dale Earnhardt’s death was not shocking?
so, it's almost like you are saying they KNEW that driving that fast without adequate safety measures was a dangerous thing... interesting...
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Posted on 1/26/20 at 10:07 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
Without being disrespectful, nothing compares to Kobe Bryant, Dale Earnhardt and Roberto Clemente. All of the others are all terrible tragedies in their own right, but those 3 were ICONS that were just bigger than sports. You didn’t have to be a fan of sports to know who they were. Today the world lost an ICON.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 10:08 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
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That’s why his death, while probably not as big, is one of the most comparable in terms of the shock factor it created.
It happening on live television at the Daytona 500 made it even more shocking and really can’t be ignored.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 10:13 pm to lsufball19
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It happening on live television
Bingo
Posted on 1/26/20 at 10:17 pm to Buckeye Backer
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All of the others are all terrible tragedies in their own right, but those 3 were ICONS that were just bigger than sports.
Clemente was not a top 5 all time player in his sport.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 10:17 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
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If you want to learn about someone who had a relentless will to win, at absolutely whatever the cost, you should learn about Senna. ESPN produced a documentary about him about 10 years ago, that I believe is still on Netflix. It’s simply titled “Senna.”
One of those rare athletes that was just trying to be the better than he was before every second of competition.
Risk/reward wasn't his game. He was always going full out.
Crashed out while leading in Monaco despite having nearly lapped the entire field. His race engineers kept telling him to back off and coast to a victory but he was still trying to go faster with every lap. He set the fastest lap while being nearly a minute ahead of 2nd place. I think he said something to the effect that it felt as though it was god, and not himself, driving the car
Posted on 1/26/20 at 10:19 pm to Sun God
This thread just made me go look up Clemente again
Holy shut that dude was a legend:
United States Marine Corp Vet
15x all star
2x World Series Mvp
NL MVP
12x gold glove
4x batting title
Holy shut that dude was a legend:
United States Marine Corp Vet
15x all star
2x World Series Mvp
NL MVP
12x gold glove
4x batting title
Posted on 1/26/20 at 10:19 pm to JohnnyKilroy
how big was the Serra death in the US?
i'm 38 and had never heard of him or his death until there was a thread on here like a year ago that mentioned the Serra documentary.
i'm 38 and had never heard of him or his death until there was a thread on here like a year ago that mentioned the Serra documentary.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 10:21 pm to MikeD
quote:Not to be rude to the recently deceased, but Clemente appears to be better comparatively than Kobe
Clemente was not a top 5 all time player in his sport.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 10:21 pm to 632627
Not big here because F1 was not very popular in the US.
It was gigantic worldwide though and basically shut the country of Brazil down for a day or two.
It was gigantic worldwide though and basically shut the country of Brazil down for a day or two.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 10:27 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Crashed out while leading in Monaco despite having nearly lapped the entire field. His race engineers kept telling him to back off and coast to a victory but he was still trying to go faster with every lap. He set the fastest lap while being nearly a minute ahead of 2nd place. I think he said something to the effect that it felt as though it was god, and not himself, driving the car
Yeah, he basically said he was driving beyond his conscious understanding.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 10:33 pm to 632627
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how big was the Serra death in the US?
i'm 38 and had never heard of him or his death until there was a thread on here like a year ago that mentioned the Serra documentary.
Not as big here because F1 didn’t have as big of a following here. Now, with much more access to F1 broadcasts, there are more f1 fans here.
But he was HUGE on the international stage. I highly encourage you to watch the “Senna” documentary if you can.
Here is the trailer for the “Senna” doc: LINK
Also, the car TV show, Top Gear (UK) did a fantastic segment on him several years ago, which I recommend: LINK
Posted on 1/26/20 at 10:42 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
Clemente was HUGE though because of his Latin American Status. Look what he did for that region of the world. He’s responsible for every Latin American you see in baseball today. He was a pioneer and that’s why his death was so tragic and historic.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 10:46 pm to baybeefeetz
#1 Kobe hands down 
Posted on 1/26/20 at 10:49 pm to Breadstick Gun
Kobe’s death....never seen anything like it. Never felt anything like it. Got texts from people today who don’t even watch sports who are heart broken. This is goin to take a long time to get over.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 10:49 pm to baybeefeetz
An arbitrary list:
Knute Rockne - one of the most iconic names in college football coaching. Killed in his early 40s.
Coached what was the greatest football program in the country.
Lou Gehrig - most famous speech perhaps in sports by one of the greatest ever to play his game
Roberto Clemente - an absolute icon who was still playing and giving back to make the world a better place.
Thurman Munson - all star playing for Yankees in the prime of his career and died in an unexpected plane crash
Salvador Sánchez - a Mexican boxer who with over 40 wins at the time of his death at age 23. He was talked about in the same way as Sugar Ray Leonard.
Pat Tillman - for what it meant to the country post 911
Dale E - killed still at the top of his game in a hugely popular sport on live television
Ayrton Senna - kinda the same as Dale but more popular worldwide
Steve Prefontaine - maybe the greatest runner in American history killed at 24 years of age and before he peaked.
Junior Seau - a significant death because of what it means about football and CTE. One of the best linebackers to ever play the game killed himself after progressive dementia and depression became unbearable. He shot himself in the chest and asked that his brain be studied to show others what damage was present.
Knute Rockne - one of the most iconic names in college football coaching. Killed in his early 40s.
Coached what was the greatest football program in the country.
Lou Gehrig - most famous speech perhaps in sports by one of the greatest ever to play his game
Roberto Clemente - an absolute icon who was still playing and giving back to make the world a better place.
Thurman Munson - all star playing for Yankees in the prime of his career and died in an unexpected plane crash
Salvador Sánchez - a Mexican boxer who with over 40 wins at the time of his death at age 23. He was talked about in the same way as Sugar Ray Leonard.
Pat Tillman - for what it meant to the country post 911
Dale E - killed still at the top of his game in a hugely popular sport on live television
Ayrton Senna - kinda the same as Dale but more popular worldwide
Steve Prefontaine - maybe the greatest runner in American history killed at 24 years of age and before he peaked.
Junior Seau - a significant death because of what it means about football and CTE. One of the best linebackers to ever play the game killed himself after progressive dementia and depression became unbearable. He shot himself in the chest and asked that his brain be studied to show others what damage was present.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 10:51 pm to lsupride87
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Not to be rude to the recently deceased, but Clemente appears to be better comparatively than Kobe
Come on man.
When is the last time any sports fans talked about Clemente in terms of best MLB player?
Come on man.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 10:55 pm to MikeD
Clemente was for different reasons. Nobody saying he was the greatest player. But his impact on the sport was transformative. First Latin American hall of famer, first Latin American to win a World Series. He inspired a revolution of baseball players in MLB. If you can’t see why his death is up there as the most tragic, then I don’t know what to tell you.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 10:55 pm to MikeD
quote:Really?
Come on man.
When is the last time any sports fans talked about Clemente in terms of best MLB player?
Come on man.
Clemente and Kobe are both in the 10-20 range in their sports
They are both legends
Posted on 1/26/20 at 11:00 pm to MikeD
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When is the last time any sports fans talked about Clemente in terms of best MLB player?
I suspect you don't respect how good of a player Clemente was for his era or for his longevity. When ESPN ranked the top 100 baseball players of all time they ranked him in the top 20 with players like Bob Gibson, Cy Young, and Ken Griffey Jr.
This probably isn't the place for a rational ranking of Kobe on an all time list but his ranking is probably highly similar - and baseball has fielded a lot more players for a lot longer history.
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