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Posted on 6/19/11 at 7:55 pm to Philosoraptor
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L. A.
By a mile.
Posted on 6/19/11 at 7:56 pm to crownNbull
Even in their worst years, the Saints were known for having huge throngs of fans that followed their teams to away games. I went many years to L.A. when the Saints played the Rams there and there was always a huge Saints contingent at the games.
The reason that Saints games were poorly attended in Tiger Stadium was because by then it had filtered out that Benson was looking to bail out to San Antonio. Look at attendance for Hornets games when they were still in Charlotte. They always had 23K sellout crowds and as soon as it became apparent that the Hornets were leaving, crowds of 6 - 7K became the norm. Granted, they should be drawing better in New Orleans but look at places like Miami. The Heat had the holy trinity this year, made the Finals and still played many home games in front of empty seats and crowds that mostly sat on their hands.
Oh, since Duck fan wants to chime in, wanna talk about the mid - late 80's when the Ducks were struggling to get 30K at football games? This was when they had winning teams. LSU averaged double that in 1992, one of their worst seasons of all time.
I've lived in quite a few places and have gone to many sporting events all over the country. L.A. is bandwagon central...BY FAR. Yes, Dodgers games are very well attended but if the Dodgers are struggling, you see many more empty seats than there were during their championship years...and yes, I've gone to quite a few games at Chavez Ravine.
The reason that Saints games were poorly attended in Tiger Stadium was because by then it had filtered out that Benson was looking to bail out to San Antonio. Look at attendance for Hornets games when they were still in Charlotte. They always had 23K sellout crowds and as soon as it became apparent that the Hornets were leaving, crowds of 6 - 7K became the norm. Granted, they should be drawing better in New Orleans but look at places like Miami. The Heat had the holy trinity this year, made the Finals and still played many home games in front of empty seats and crowds that mostly sat on their hands.
Oh, since Duck fan wants to chime in, wanna talk about the mid - late 80's when the Ducks were struggling to get 30K at football games? This was when they had winning teams. LSU averaged double that in 1992, one of their worst seasons of all time.
I've lived in quite a few places and have gone to many sporting events all over the country. L.A. is bandwagon central...BY FAR. Yes, Dodgers games are very well attended but if the Dodgers are struggling, you see many more empty seats than there were during their championship years...and yes, I've gone to quite a few games at Chavez Ravine.
This post was edited on 6/19/11 at 7:59 pm
Posted on 6/19/11 at 8:03 pm to CommunityCollegeFTW
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anywhere in Florida and it really isn't close
Disagree. The Dolphins and Magic have always had a loyal fan base even in bad times.
Now, the Heat, Marlins and Bucs...that's a different story.
And Jacksonville is just irellivent.
Posted on 6/19/11 at 8:06 pm to Party At LSU
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The Dolphins and Magic have always had a loyal fan base even in bad times.
I reiterate...
LINK
Posted on 6/19/11 at 8:12 pm to THRILLHO
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THRILLHO
I reiterate:
Any time post Dan Marino ARE bad times. They have a strong national following too. And those playoff games ended up selling out. I watched them. I was there for several.
Posted on 6/20/11 at 12:16 am to crownNbull
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Fact
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The 2006 season, you couldn't give Saints tickets away. No one in the city was a fan
crownNbull, he don't need no stinkin facts!!!!
Posted on 6/20/11 at 3:09 am to shel311
Tired of people accusing Boston of being a bandwagon city. The city is all in with their sports teams, so that's a bullshite statement - it's the pseudo-fans around the nation that hop on the bandwagon, not the fans in the city.
Posted on 6/20/11 at 3:13 am to Meursault
New York is getting really overlooked here. There's two of everything in town, and half the damn city switches depending on which one is better. It sickens me.
Posted on 6/20/11 at 3:17 am to Zantrix
quote:It's a fact that Boston is a frontrunning town when it comes to the Bruins and Patriots. The Bruins deal should be obvious, and even Bill Simmons admits it. The Patriots deal is just as obvious--it just happened 10 years ago when the Pats got good. Nobody gave two shits about that team until 2001.
Tired of people accusing Boston of being a bandwagon city. The city is all in with their sports teams, so that's a bullshite statement - it's the pseudo-fans around the nation that hop on the bandwagon, not the fans in the city.
As far as the Celtics and Red Sox, Boston has always loved those two enough to make itself immune to the "frontrunner" label; the fact that so many bandwagoneers from outside of Boston have jumped on over the past few decades causes a bit of confusion in this thread.
Posted on 6/20/11 at 3:21 am to xiv
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It's a fact that Boston is a frontrunning town when it comes to the Bruins and Patriots. The Bruins deal should be obvious, and even Bill Simmons admits it. The Patriots deal is just as obvious--it just happened 10 years ago when the Pats got good. Nobody gave two shits about that team until 2001. As far as the Celtics and Red Sox, Boston has always loved those two enough to make itself immune to the "frontrunner" label; the fact that so many bandwagoneers from outside of Boston have jumped on over the past few decades causes a bit of confusion in this thread.
Completely wrong on the Bruins, completely right on the Red Sox. The Patriots have always had a decent following too. Hell, Boston actually had a victory parade for Ray Borque when he won it with the Avalanche. Don't confuse a fan base that was trying to send a message to shitty owners (and had unprecedented success in the other sports) with a crappy fan base. To be honest, other than the Larry Legend years and the couple of resurgent years, nobody really cared about the Celtics.
Posted on 6/20/11 at 3:29 am to Jcorye1
One last comment before this turns into a bash Boston thread. People's views on sports also change from time to time. NFL wasn't always the number one sport in America, but because the tastes of the average sports fan, it overcame baseball.
Posted on 6/20/11 at 8:13 am to Meursault
1: Pittsburgh
2. Cincinnati
Last place: Cleveland ( At least when it comes to the browns)
2. Cincinnati
Last place: Cleveland ( At least when it comes to the browns)
This post was edited on 6/20/11 at 8:14 am
Posted on 6/20/11 at 9:05 am to crownNbull
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After Katrina, how many diehards made the 80 mile drive (not everyone lost everything in the storm). Take off the black and gold glasses.
yeah those bandwagon pieces of shite. Who the frick do they think they are worrying about meaningless garbage like where am I going to live or work when there's a football game on? NOLA folks showed where there priorities are during that little katrina fiasco. They sicken me!
This post was edited on 6/20/11 at 9:06 am
Posted on 6/20/11 at 9:28 am to BilJ
My family has had season tickets since the first season in Tulane Stadium. My grandfather passed them to my dad and my dad has since passed the tickets to me but I still take him to games with me. I have only misses two home games in my lifetime (san Diego '94 and san Francisco '96) including being a baby, my dad used to hold me at games.
Attendance at games was always pretty good since I have been alive and going to games. But there were lots of times in mid to late 90's when blackouts were occuring frequently because of non-sellouts. Obviously, ticket sales are great when you are winning. Tickets were hard to come by in the late 80's and early 90's when we were winning. Tickets sales really dropped off there mid 90's till the 2000 season. They sold well until 2004 when the team was heading downhill.
It is amazing to see the support the team is getting now. I absolutely love being apart of it. I love it more that I have been a part of it my whole life.
My point is that success brings band wagon fans. I don't care really though. Are there bandwagoners in New Orleans? Yes. But I don't think it is more than any other city. I hope the fan support will continue like this even if we drop off. Bandwagon or not, butts in the seats are what matters.
Attendance at games was always pretty good since I have been alive and going to games. But there were lots of times in mid to late 90's when blackouts were occuring frequently because of non-sellouts. Obviously, ticket sales are great when you are winning. Tickets were hard to come by in the late 80's and early 90's when we were winning. Tickets sales really dropped off there mid 90's till the 2000 season. They sold well until 2004 when the team was heading downhill.
It is amazing to see the support the team is getting now. I absolutely love being apart of it. I love it more that I have been a part of it my whole life.
My point is that success brings band wagon fans. I don't care really though. Are there bandwagoners in New Orleans? Yes. But I don't think it is more than any other city. I hope the fan support will continue like this even if we drop off. Bandwagon or not, butts in the seats are what matters.
This post was edited on 6/20/11 at 9:30 am
Posted on 6/20/11 at 9:48 am to Rickie
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Yeah it has to be Florida, from the Rays to the Heat
The rays couldn't even sell out the World Series and playoff games and you call them bandwagon fans. Maybe the bandwagon broke down on the way to the games. 
Posted on 6/20/11 at 10:24 am to Walt OReilly
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Baton Rouge
Posted on 6/20/11 at 10:29 am to Meursault
pro- L.A.
college- Austin
college- Austin
Posted on 6/20/11 at 11:06 am to Zamoro10
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Dodgers say you're an idiot and you've probably never been there.
The Dodgers are playing in an empty ballpark so far this season. Frank McCourt is losing so much money that he is about to have the team taken away from him by MLB.
I currently reside here in "Shitty Sports Fans Central" and have for over 20 years observed at close hand the sports scene here in L.A..
Before Pete Carroll arrived on the scene and the condoms were stinking up the Colosseum you would be hard pressed to find a USC fan in L.A.
Nowadays UCLA fans are nowhere to be found on Saturday afternoons in the fall due to their losing ways.
Last year when UCLA hosted the regional against LSU there were more LSU fans in attendance in that little bandbox they call a ballpark than UCLA fans.
Until a team starts regularly contending for championships in this town fans avoid them like the plague.
Clipper tickets can still be bought at a discount for most home games.
The Angels are all the way down in Orange County and are not an L.A. team, nor do many fans travel from L.A. all the way down to Anaheim to watch them play.
As far as me never having been there, I live in L.A. and have been to three Dodger games so far this season. How about you? How many sports events have you attended in Los Angeles in this incarnation?
I'm betting that you are just like the typical SoCal sports fan who supports the local teams in theory only. ie If they're winning save some room on the bandwagon for me, but if they're losing, well I've got other things to do...
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And what is even your point? Empty seats? N.O. was sure filled to the brim when they were losing.
What has happened to every NFL team that has ever called L.A. their home? They left town due to fans abandoning them in droves after having a few lean years.
If New Orleans fans were anywhere near as fickle as Los Angeles fans, the Saints would have had to leave New Orleans in the late 60s. In the 70s and 80s Saints fans may have been wearing bags over their heads and calling their team the Aints, but they still bought enough tickets to keep the franchise from having to pull up stakes and leave town for another city in order to remain economically viable.
Posted on 6/20/11 at 11:15 am to xiv
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It's a fact that Boston is a frontrunning town when it comes to the Bruins and Patriots. The Bruins deal should be obvious, and even Bill Simmons admits it. The Patriots deal is just as obvious--it just happened 10 years ago when the Pats got good. Nobody gave two shits about that team until 2001.
God, I hate how Boston people are pretending they cared about the Bruins for the last 20 years. As one writer on SBNation said, "I went to college in Boston, and in my four years there, I met two Bruins fans." And don't bring up the Jacobs crap. Every city has a lousy owner for one of their teams. You don't see Washingtonians not rooting for the Redskins because Dan Snyder is a yutz.
Boston's loyal to the Sox and Celtics, so they aren't in the running for most bandwagon town -- compared to LA and Tampa, two cities who pretty much define bandwagon.
But really, I hate pseudo-Bruins fans. I'll sum it up like this. I was stuck behind a car in traffic -- it had an old school Celtics sticker, two Red Sox stickers, one giant Patriots helmet, and a shiny new Bruins logo slapped in the corner. That is the quintessential Boston fan.
Still, you ain't LA. So there's that.
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