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re: Autopsy: Tyler Skaggs choked on vomit, caused byFentanyl, oxycodone and alcohol
Posted on 8/30/19 at 4:53 pm to cas4t
Posted on 8/30/19 at 4:53 pm to cas4t
So...do we feel bad for the guy? I mean, I don’t want to wish death upon someone. But when someone knowingly takes these risks, it’s their own fault. It’s not ‘big pharma’ that killed Skaggs. His parents seem to be in denial too. I hope they were completely unaware of his drug use. Otherwise, they could have indirectly enabled him.
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Posted on 8/30/19 at 4:56 pm to TexasTiger08
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So...do we feel bad for the guy?
I feel bad for anyone who gets caught up with opioids. That doesn't absolve them of their personal responsibility.
Posted on 8/30/19 at 4:59 pm to 9Fiddy
Time to legalize.
I have UC and my doctors won t prescribe me shite for my pain.
I told them flatly that this ridiculous war on drugs and OPIODS mainly served by doctors is going to force those with extreme chronic pain to look elsewhere and try harder stuff with blood on their hands for pushing folks away.
Hello Colorado weed and purple haze.
Our government is a cancer and clueless to this reality.
I have UC and my doctors won t prescribe me shite for my pain.
I told them flatly that this ridiculous war on drugs and OPIODS mainly served by doctors is going to force those with extreme chronic pain to look elsewhere and try harder stuff with blood on their hands for pushing folks away.
Hello Colorado weed and purple haze.
Our government is a cancer and clueless to this reality.
This post was edited on 8/30/19 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 8/30/19 at 5:02 pm to TexasTiger08
Of course I feel bad for him. It’s not like he was a murderer. Still a 27 year old who died.
Posted on 8/30/19 at 5:02 pm to sugar71
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These people are seen more as victims as opposed to criminals of previous drug epidemics.
Chappelle did a whole bit on this
Posted on 8/30/19 at 5:03 pm to BluegrassBelle
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It’s a complex issue involving things brain chemistry, highly addictive substances, genetic predispositions to addiction, etc. It’s never as simple as they should “just stop”.
No kidding it’s a complex issue but it hits really close to home for me as it does for others in this thread. My friend had been gone for a year and a half now and I still haven’t come to grips with it. Not a day goes by when I don’t think about him and the guilt I feel that I didn’t see that he was that addicted. He was completely functional, worked hard and had a great job and wasn’t at a point where he had lost it all. There’s plenty of blame to go around, my friend absolutely bears some responsibility for the choices he made, but this opioid crisis is destroying thousands of people in this country. It does need to stop and the roots of its causes need to be addressed
Posted on 8/30/19 at 5:05 pm to 187undercover
I agree THC needs to be looked at seriously as a solution for people with chronic pain or just for people with injuries. Opiates clearly aren’t the answer
Posted on 8/30/19 at 5:05 pm to ChanceOfRainIsNever
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Not a day goes by when I don’t think about him and the guilt I feel that I didn’t see that he was that addicted
Don't.
Replace addicted with depressed while talking about a suicide victim and it's the same. Addicted/depressed people are the best at putting on masks and only letting people see the best of them.
You can't blame yourself because your friend tried as hard as he could to ensure you and his other friends and loved ones didn't know.
Posted on 8/30/19 at 5:07 pm to TrapperJohn
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How does that even happen to a non homeless person?
Woah, talk about out of touch.
Posted on 8/30/19 at 5:08 pm to 187undercover
I have CD. Weed help you?
Posted on 8/30/19 at 5:12 pm to hiltacular
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Chappelle did a whole bit on this
Richard Pryor did it better 40 years ago. Its amusing to see the different approach.
Posted on 8/30/19 at 5:14 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Damn, very sad situation. I've known some people that died from Fentanyl. Dealers are even lacing Meth with Fentanyl, causing meth overdoses.
Posted on 8/30/19 at 5:16 pm to cas4t
Right. It’s a sad situation, but it’s a harsh reminder that if you dabble in drugs, you could kill yourself.
As for the opioid crisis. How many people deep into drugs blame doctors instead of themselves?
As for the opioid crisis. How many people deep into drugs blame doctors instead of themselves?
Posted on 8/30/19 at 5:17 pm to TexasTiger08
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Right. It’s a sad situation, but it’s a harsh reminder that if you dabble in drugs, you could kill yourself.
This isn't in disagreement with anything said in this thread.
Posted on 8/30/19 at 5:21 pm to wahoocs
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Dude, I have a DEA license
Posted on 8/30/19 at 5:25 pm to TexasTiger08
Doctors prescribe highly addictive opioids because that's what Big Pharma wants. Person gets addicted to opioids and eventually tries stronger stuff. Person ODs on either opioids or something stronger.
That's usually how this shite works which is why Big Pharma tries so hard to keep weed illegal because people are far more likely to use marijuana then some opioids that they can OD on
That's usually how this shite works which is why Big Pharma tries so hard to keep weed illegal because people are far more likely to use marijuana then some opioids that they can OD on
Posted on 8/30/19 at 5:26 pm to 187undercover
People demand a pain free existence. Modern medicine has given it an asinine 1-10 scale and made it a vital sign. Doctors can be sued for lowering quality of life
Norco or something similar is almost standard for major surgery recovery. But you can recover from double knee replacement or a C section on ibuprofen only. My Dad and wife, respectively, did so. Both refused Norco scripts to the surprise of their docs. But it's understandable because of a cultural and medical expectation, there are major pratfalls to telling someone to suck it up and be tough.
The problem is not gonna get resolved until we and the medical field both change our attitudes about it, or we discover something as good as morphine that doesn't intoxicate and isn't harmful or addictive
Norco or something similar is almost standard for major surgery recovery. But you can recover from double knee replacement or a C section on ibuprofen only. My Dad and wife, respectively, did so. Both refused Norco scripts to the surprise of their docs. But it's understandable because of a cultural and medical expectation, there are major pratfalls to telling someone to suck it up and be tough.
The problem is not gonna get resolved until we and the medical field both change our attitudes about it, or we discover something as good as morphine that doesn't intoxicate and isn't harmful or addictive
This post was edited on 8/30/19 at 5:30 pm
Posted on 8/30/19 at 5:28 pm to sugar71
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Trying to put my finger on what's different from this drug epidemic compared to those of the past.
Because it starts as pain killers not someone doing meth or a straight heroin addict. And like it has been mentioned, people are overdosing because the drugs are laced with fentanyl without their knowledge in a number of cases.
Posted on 8/30/19 at 5:34 pm to 187undercover
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Time to legalize.
I have UC and my doctors won t prescribe me shite for my pain.
I told them flatly that this ridiculous war on drugs and OPIODS mainly served by doctors is going to force those with extreme chronic pain to look elsewhere and try harder stuff with blood on their hands for pushing folks away.
Hello Colorado weed and purple haze.
Our government is a cancer and clueless to this reality.
I promise you Tyler Skaggs could have easily got weed if he wanted it.
Almost anyone that wants weed can get it as of now. Federally banned or not.
Posted on 8/30/19 at 5:36 pm to McCaigBro69
You can blame Obamacare for the opioid death outbreak.
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