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re: Auburn football now claims nine national championships, including 1993 & 2004

Posted on 8/19/25 at 12:11 pm to
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 8/19/25 at 12:11 pm to
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I'm cool with whatever they claim pre BCS (even though the 93 is laughable), why not. But claiming 2004 is just silly.


2004 is their most legit one of them all though



Yeah

Undefeated. If the AP was more forward thinking they probably should have voted for Auburn that year. It was a defensible decision and would have prolonged their perception of relevance
Posted by West Monroe
west Monroe, la
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 8/19/25 at 12:16 pm to
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Still not as embarrassing as 2003 SEC West co-champs


SEC office did send them a trophy though as they do with all teams who finish in first. I get the making fun for putting up a banner, but they do have a trophy for it.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
27918 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 12:16 pm to
Texas A&M claims 7
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
369 Cardboard Box Lane
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 8/19/25 at 12:18 pm to
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The lump took out the separate SOS formula that was used because the computer formula already counted it


But then they made the computers only 1/3 of the BCS which means the SOS was an even smaller piece of what was considered.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39024 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 12:20 pm to
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We gonna act like auburn wasnt paying players too?

USC just got sloppy


Auburn is the epitome of pay for play trying to catch up to Bama...Tigers have more infractions than a fictional rogue Texas football factory you see in movies.

(Once again, for the millionth time....show us where USC paid players, show us where the NCAA found USC paid players, no where in their findings did they EVER punish USC for paying players....not coaches, not the University, not Boosters.

USC was punished for its "USC-ness" and rampant jealousy of other coaches of USC's openness and celebs and that "recruiting advantage" and for running a "fun, loose ship" that allowed a player to make a deal with sports agents...tame by today NIL standards.)

Auburn can claim what they want...its a free shameless Country and Auburn has a history of no shame or accountability with the NCAA.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60811 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 12:32 pm to
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But then they made the computers only 1/3 of the BCS which means the SOS was an even smaller piece of what was considered.


You are treating the SOS formulas as if they were some Newtonian mathematical truth and it’s not. It was created by humans and since it was proprietary no one knows exactly how it’s computed. And again the humans do factor it in or Hawaii would have played for the 2007 BCS title
Posted by Ryan3232
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/19/25 at 12:33 pm to
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I'm cool with whatever they claim pre BCS (even though the 93 is laughable), why not. But claiming 2004 is just silly.
They got screwed over in 2004. Didnt even get a chance to play in the big game after a perfect season. Most unlucky draw I can remember in my lifetime.
Posted by Ssubba
Member since Oct 2014
7385 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 12:40 pm to
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They got screwed over in 2004. Didnt even get a chance to play in the big game after a perfect season. Most unlucky draw I can remember in my lifetime.


Unlucky for sure, but claiming a title in an era where there was an official title game is a no go.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
78807 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 12:42 pm to
Any pre-AP poll era title is irrelevant. Honestly, a lot of pre-BCS era ones are too.
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
17597 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 12:47 pm to
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There was a BCS National Championship game. They weren’t in it


Now do 2003 USC
This post was edited on 8/19/25 at 12:49 pm
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25194 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 12:51 pm to
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Before the current playoff system, it was a pretty common occurrence for multiple national champions in a given year.


Yeah, because the AP and Coaches polls had different teams ranked #1 in their final poll. The BCS era mostly got rid of split national championships because it got all of the major bowls on board with #1 vs #2 playing each other in a bowl game, where previously the top 2 ranked teams often played in different bowl games....leading to split national championships.

BCS formula kind of fricked it up in 2003, but you still had USC voted #1 in the final AP poll to give them a claim to a share of the national title. But who voted Auburn as national champion in 2004? They finished #2 in both the AP and Coaches polls.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
58945 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 12:52 pm to
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There was a BCS National Championship game. They weren’t in it

Now do 2003 USC


I don't really care about 03, but USC was voted #1 by the AP, Auburn was not.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
38572 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 1:01 pm to
There only real mistake is not claiming 2004 sooner
Posted by GeauxPanthers2
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Dec 2024
1360 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 1:03 pm to
I always used to love how Auburn noted their Undefeated seasons on banners/signage throughout their stadium. It was cool and unique to them, and I never thought it was a sour grapes thing. Hey, these are the seasons we won every fricking game we played... no caption needed.

So needless to say I don't like them doing this retroactive claim of titles. Very lame.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
24851 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 1:04 pm to
Nothing new. Teams have been doing this for a long time.
Back in 2012. Texas A&M Picked Up Two National Championships, Two Conference Titles Over The Summer
This post was edited on 8/19/25 at 1:06 pm
Posted by Ryan3232
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Member since Dec 2008
27376 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 1:07 pm to
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Unlucky for sure, but claiming a title in an era where there was an official title game is a no go.
yeah I agree with you here. They can claim they got screwed, but not a championship
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
39942 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 1:08 pm to
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With ease? Bro, you only beat LSU with some help from the officials.



ronnie prude
Posted by Gnash
Cypress, Tx
Member since Oct 2015
10010 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 1:09 pm to
Claude Wroten
Posted by Lexis Dad
Member since Apr 2025
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Posted on 8/19/25 at 1:26 pm to
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
14051 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 1:56 pm to
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You are treating the SOS formulas as if they were some Newtonian mathematical truth and it’s not. It was created by humans and since it was proprietary no one knows exactly how it’s computed

Wasn't it the winning percentage of a team's opponents added to, or multiplied by, the winning percentage of the opponents' opponents?

And I am pretty sure SOS was still a factor in 2004. Auburn was supposed to play Bowling Green that year, but BGU asked to get out of the game in either 2002 or 2003, because they had an opportunity to play Oklahoma (BGU's Athletic Director was an OU grad I think). Auburn had to scramble to find a replacement and picked up The Citadel as the replacement. BGU won 9 games that year, Citadel only won 3. I think that one difference in an opponent's record kept AU out of the title game.
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