re: ATL Thread | offseason hot takes + discussion

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Malloy was still 2 years away from contributing.

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Wut? He literally ended last year in AAA and raked there. He would be ready by June/July most likely, if not sooner.

I actually expect Jimenez to pitch really well for us, but that doesn't change the fact he only comes with one year of control.

The Malloy trade is something I expect a team like the Padres who are desperately trying to win a championship before their window closes to do, not a team like the Braves to do (who are in the middle of a window and need bats in the OF and at DH).

The fact we received cash back from the Tigers also means we paid more in prospects because of it. Which is particularly annoying since we lost a bunch of money in the stupid Will Smith for Odor trade at the end of last year. It might wind up a big nothingburger, or Malloy may be a 2-3 WAR OF for cheap while we are looking for a decent LF.

Prior to trade - he should be ready mid season

Immediately after trade - he is at least a year away

After others question trade - he is at least two years away

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Do you think these particular new rules will help/hurt the Braves?

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My first thought was thank God the Red Sox signed Kenley for 2/$32M. He's going to struggle to adjust to it and that would have been just as risky as the Jimenez trade.

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At this point do any of you believe that Dansby will be the Braves starting shortstop next year? I don't see it personally.

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I think there is a chance, but now I think there is a better chance that he is a Cub than a Brave.

I'm not attached to Dansby enough to think he makes or breaks this team. But throwing Vaughn (a dude who was playing A-ball less than a year ago) into the fire to replace one of the game's best defensive SS to save money is a terrible way to develop players and not a good look for a franchise that's a contender.

Before anyone brings up Jeremy Pena and Correa, remember that Pena was considered one of the best SS prospects in the game. That's not Vaughn, the scenarios aren't comparable. Good player, potential to be a plus-guy, but still very much a work in progress, especially defensively.

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hit .280 in 8 games ? I mean that's fine and all but 8 games.

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Did you really just try and use freaking batting average to say how someone was hitting? Really? Come on in to this century.

He posted an .864 OPS in AAA and posted an .862 OPS for the entire year. He also posted an .880+ OPS in the Arizona fall league. He raked all year long, doesn't matter what level you are talking about. He did the same thing Grissom did offensively last year, he just didn't make it to the majors.

I’ll preface this by saying that yes he helped bring them a WS championship. And while I’m mildly bothered by the lack of moves thus far, I think it’s more due to an increasing need for immediate gratification over the years.
With that all being said, if the reports are true that there has been a lack of communication between AA and Dansby and now reports saying Dansby is bothered by this lack of communication, would that lead you to have a different opinion of AA’s tactics? Whether you feel that Dansby is worth the chase or not, you’d think he’d be given the courtesy of actually having thorough discussions. Sounds like what happened with Freddie last year. AA’s philosophy of only dealing with agents is probably not a bad one but there has to be exceptions. Had he called Freddie last year he would still be a Brave.
It broke my heart when Murph was traded. But it also helped start an unprecedented run. And Murphy was also on board with it.
One of the greatest attributes to anyone in a leadership/management position is flexibility. Sounds like he’s not willing to make any exceptions to his way of doing things.
- extend young players
- sign cheap reclamation projects
- no big FA signings
It has worked thus far. But the next few years will be a big test.

Assuming you’re right. And no “significant” additions to be made. Grissom/Arcia at SS
Ozuna/Rosario platoon in left. Or bring in Duval if he’s cheap enough?
Contreras/d’Arnaud at C/DH
They’re an injury away from risking the division streak. That’s a weak bench.

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AA’s philosophy of only dealing with agents is probably not a bad one but there has to be exceptions

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He's going to do everything strictly by the book since the organization got caught doing the international signing shenanigans.

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He's going to do everything strictly by the book since the organization got caught doing the international signing shenanigans.

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You can’t talk to free agents? That sounds like a crappy rule.

And I can’t wait for next off season. When the Mets sign Ohtani to a 10/$500 million deal, the Phillies sign Devers to a 10/$450 million and the Dodgers trade their 18th and 20th best prospects for Burnes.

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The Mets and the Phillies are going to be objectively better next year.

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Phillies definitely. Mets are about where they were last year but they won 100 games last year and are likely not done this year. Padres are better. Cards are better. I guess you could consider the Braves being better getting Allbies back and hopefully a healthier Acuna. Gonna be interesting for sure.