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re: ATL Thread | offseason hot takes + discussion

Posted on 12/2/22 at 11:33 am to
Posted by VinegarStrokes
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Posted on 12/2/22 at 11:33 am to
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be that as it may, it remains beyond ridiculous that MLB is outlawing strategy.


I'm simply not a fan of changing rules in order to fundamentally force the game to move in another direction. We've seen it happen in football and basketball as well, and I hate it.
Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:35 pm to
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why don't they bunt or hit the other way


IMO this is what people who don’t fully understand the game say.(that’s at this time. In the past it was a valid question) Now there is enough time to see that adjustment isn’t a reasonable ask. We would have seen players do it. Even if the stars would be averse to it, scores of fringe players would have made a name for themselves by making that adjustment.

I don’t think limiting the shift is a bad idea. Teams will still shift to where the third baseman is at shortstop and the shortstop is by the second base bag.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/3/22 at 3:41 pm to
Reports that Cubs are showing interest in Dansby.

Wouldn't be a surprising over for him considering his wife plays on the Chicago NWSL team
Posted by PrescriptionPig
Arkansas
Member since Jul 2013
658 posts
Posted on 12/3/22 at 4:59 pm to
What is Bryan Reynolds going to cost us?
Posted by Dale Murphy
God's Country
Member since Feb 2005
24897 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 12:27 pm to
With the deGrom and Verlander signings what do we do with Fried? No way will or should the Braves pay what he’s going to be getting paid as a FA. Gotta lock him up now or trade him. Can’t just let him walk away in 2 years for nothing.
Posted by TrussvilleTide
The Endless Void
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 12/5/22 at 12:54 pm to
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what do we do with Fried?


With the money they have saved on the other deals they are really doing the team and the fans a disservice if they don't extend him, no matter what the cost is. You save money during an open window to spend it elsewhere. Are we going to be the bargain bin Braves, or are we going to put our dick down on the table for once?
Posted by Dale Murphy
God's Country
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 12/5/22 at 12:56 pm to
1. Extend Fried
2. Find a SS
3. Find a LF/DH
4. Shore up the pen

Anything else AA needs to do?
Posted by TrussvilleTide
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Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 12/5/22 at 12:59 pm to
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2. Find a SS


Judging by the story on Washington working with Grissom at short I think theres your answer if we do whiff on Dansby.

Posted by VADawg
Wherever
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Posted on 12/5/22 at 1:07 pm to
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No way will or should the Braves pay what he’s going to be getting paid as a FA. Gotta lock him up now or trade him. Can’t just let him walk away in 2 years for nothing.


I don't think either will happen. I think he plays out his contract, accepts a qualifying offer, and gets a massive payday from the Angels.

AA has not shown a willingness to give long term contracts to starters (Strider aside because he's so young) and I don't think he'll start now. I love Fried, but that kind of deal does carry a good bit of risk.
Posted by Dale Murphy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 12/5/22 at 1:45 pm to
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I think he plays out his contract, accepts a qualifying offer, and gets a massive payday from the Angels.


I'd much rather a trade in this situation. Letting him go for a comp pick would be crazy. And like you said, the chances of signing him as a FA is close to nil.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
53366 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 1:57 pm to
jesus would Trea Turner frick off already

ETA: if Dansby wants even HALF of what Turner got, I figure he’s good as gone.
This post was edited on 12/5/22 at 2:00 pm
Posted by Dale Murphy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 12/5/22 at 2:04 pm to
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ETA: if Dansby wants even HALF of what Turner got, I figure he’s good as gone.


Welcome to SS, Grissom.

Unless there's a trade brewing.
Posted by LSUJockStrap
Member since May 2019
2017 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 2:55 pm to
Turner just set the market....300M just wow....and he's back in our division
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 4:11 pm to
I did the math and Turner is at $27.2 AAV. I honestly thought it'd be higher.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 4:12 pm to
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Welcome to SS, Grissom.


Not feeling that one.

Teams in a championship window don't have Vaughn Grissom at SS.
Posted by Dale Murphy
God's Country
Member since Feb 2005
24897 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 4:34 pm to
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Teams in a championship window don't have Vaughn Grissom at SS.


I agree. But Turner just priced us out of the big 4 SS.
Either a trade for Adames or it's Grissom.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
53366 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 4:34 pm to
I agree.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 5:28 pm to
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But Turner just priced us out of the big 4 SS.
Either a trade for Adames or it's Grissom.

We'll see.

AA has said he won't mind going into the luxury tax if the situation is right. But he is also in record saying that he doesn't want to have an excuberent contract above 24-25 MIL AAV and wants an evenly spread payroll.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
41194 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 5:29 pm to
Imo there is absolutely no chance Grissom is our opening day SS.

If we don’t sign Dansby we will make a trade.
This post was edited on 12/5/22 at 5:30 pm
Posted by TrussvilleTide
The Endless Void
Member since Sep 2021
4069 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 9:46 am to
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Imo there is absolutely no chance Grissom is our opening day SS.


Then why is Wash working with him at SS?

The team seems to think there is at least a chance or they wouldn't bother.
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