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re: Astros CEO George Postolos resigns
Posted on 5/13/13 at 2:52 pm to barry
Posted on 5/13/13 at 2:52 pm to barry
the Astros have been fielding a AA or AAA team for years now. I don't understand why anyone would defend that.
It isn't like MLB is the NBA and they have positioned themselves to get a can't miss prospect #1 in the draft.
It isn't like MLB is the NBA and they have positioned themselves to get a can't miss prospect #1 in the draft.
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 2:56 pm to molsusports
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the Astros have been fielding a AA or AAA team for years now. I don't understand why anyone would defend that.
He's owned the team for two years. Its about the money. Its all guaranteed. You can easily paint yourselves in a corner. Not like the NFL where you just cut people.
So you would rather them be stuck as a 70-80 team for a decade then take a shot at forming a contending team?
No other team has had their farm system run into the ground like the astros. This was the previous owners fault, not theirs.
Posted on 5/13/13 at 3:02 pm to barry
The Astros long term problem is their division. The Rangers have a better farm system right now. The Angels will be able to spend big. Houston isn't going to leapfrog those two with their current strategy of development. (Although the Pujols and Hamilton deals are increasingly horrible as they get into later years).
Posted on 5/13/13 at 3:04 pm to barry
Peter Gammons:
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"If I'm an ALE or ALC owner, Houston's plan to have no payroll, lose, get the 1-2 pick 4 years in a row and still steal revenue-sharing $ [money] may guarantee 3 teams in the AL West win 90 games, and make the playoffs, and spit on the integrity of the sport."
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"Fellow big market teams who have payrolls under $40M should 1. Not get revenue-sharing and 2. Be out of the protected pick business. Rewarding trying to lose is wrong."
Posted on 5/13/13 at 3:21 pm to molsusports
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Peter Gammons
He's only pissed because that plan would screw his beloved Red Sox.
Posted on 5/13/13 at 3:30 pm to CunningLinguist
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The Rangers have a better farm system right now.
Barely. Both teams have a top 10 farm system.
Posted on 5/13/13 at 3:36 pm to molsusports
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Peter Gammons:
So. What.
Houston is in a big city but its not a big market team.
Posted on 5/13/13 at 3:37 pm to molsusports
Yeah somehow I doubt ol' Pete took such a hardline stance when the Rays were doing it circa 2000-2007 when it directly benefitted his beloved Sox chances of making the playoffs every year.
Posted on 5/13/13 at 3:41 pm to molsusports
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Peter Gammons
Posted on 5/13/13 at 3:41 pm to CunningLinguist
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The Rangers have a better farm system right now.
Uh, previous 8 years, yes. Right now, both organizations farm system are about equal.
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The Angels will be able to spend big. Houston isn't going to leapfrog those two with their current strategy of development. (Although the Pujols and Hamilton deals are increasingly horrible as they get into later years).
They may be able to spend big - but they continually throw good money at bad investments. Plus, in 3 years, when the Astros young talent are in their prime, the Angels will be handcuffed with over-bloated payroll with not nearly the talent to support it.
Posted on 5/13/13 at 5:53 pm to Silky Johnston
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Yeah somehow I doubt ol' Pete took such a hardline stance when the Rays were doing it circa 2000-2007 when it directly benefitted his beloved Sox chances of making the playoffs every year.
Enough with the people attacking the messenger. He's been critical of the Rays but that's not the point. What the Astros and Rays has done has been a bad thing for the fans of their teams and bad for the competitive product MLB wants to present.
Posted on 5/13/13 at 6:17 pm to molsusports
Interesting.
It would definitely be a win as far as PR goes.
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According to a Major League Baseball source, Craig Biggio has been approached about becoming the next Astros team president. — Matt Jackson (@MJ4Sports)
It would definitely be a win as far as PR goes.
Posted on 5/13/13 at 6:46 pm to Lsuhoohoo
I'm just glad that I wasn't around to argue with molsusports. How gnorant is that guy?
MLB is not a WIN NOW league. Unless you're the Yankees, it's not going to happen
MLB is not a WIN NOW league. Unless you're the Yankees, it's not going to happen
This post was edited on 5/13/13 at 6:49 pm
Posted on 5/13/13 at 6:52 pm to Prominentwon
I don't even understand why saying what I said is controversial or personally offensive to you. The present Astros ownership obviously isn't trying to win right now and is happily pocketing a nice profit instead of taking even moderate steps to improve their on the field product.
Posted on 5/13/13 at 7:03 pm to molsusports
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instead of taking even moderate steps to improve their on the field product.
if they win 40 or 70 games, waht's the point? why waste the money?
Posted on 5/13/13 at 7:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
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if they win 40 or 70 games, waht's the point?
the point is to win more games and resemble a professional team.
other teams shouldn't have to share revenue with a club like Houston that isn't even trying this year
Posted on 5/13/13 at 7:13 pm to barry
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Houston is in a big city but its not a big market team.
What do you mean by this? Are you saying they're just not supported like teams in NY, LA, and Chicago?
Posted on 5/13/13 at 7:27 pm to molsusports
How are they not trying?
Posted on 5/13/13 at 7:32 pm to molsusports
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the Astros have been fielding a AA or AAA team for years now. I don't understand why anyone would defend that.
And for many of those years they had the kind of payroll you, and other morons, are asking for. What do they have to show for it? An even worse rebuilding job to deal with.
They have completely turned the system around the last couple years and will spend money when they can actually compete.
Posted on 5/13/13 at 7:44 pm to medtiger
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What do you mean by this? Are you saying they're just not supported like teams in NY, LA, and Chicago?
Well they definitely don't have the nationwide bandwagon fanbase like those teams do.
Luhnow has said that the Astros plan to add payroll when the prospects begin to surface in the majors. The plan has been laid out by him numerous times. The Astros have supported large payrolls in the past (recent past) and will do it again.
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