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Are the Grizzlies better without Ja?

Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:56 pm
Posted by Tadpole from Cutoff
Cutoff
Member since May 2022
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Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:56 pm
I mean they ended up with the 2-seed because of the run in the regular season they made without him. The just beat the Warriors by a million without him. Not saying trade the guy or anything like that, but this isn’t a crazy question.
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
15818 posts
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:56 pm to
Seem to be better defensively
Posted by yaboidarrell
westbank
Member since Feb 2017
5410 posts
Posted on 5/11/22 at 10:57 pm to
Tyus Jones is very underrated
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40883 posts
Posted on 5/11/22 at 11:00 pm to
It’s easy to win by 40 when everything is going your way. Last game in crunch time they needed him badly. At the end of the game you need a player that can create his own shot.
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
16968 posts
Posted on 5/11/22 at 11:07 pm to
Vegas doesn't think so. Let's not take 1 game anomaly and conclude that it's a trend.
Posted by BobMayonnaise
Memphis
Member since Feb 2009
1384 posts
Posted on 5/11/22 at 11:12 pm to
No, because Ja is their go to bucket man, which is what they were missing at the end of game four after being up the entire game until the final two minutes.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
15407 posts
Posted on 5/11/22 at 11:24 pm to
Ja is a terrific player, but it's clear the Grizzlies don't really miss a beat when he's out.

Their defense is better without him, bar none. Ja is one of the most athletically gifted players in the NBA. Without a doubt. There is zero reason for him to be bad at defense. It's an effort thing at this point.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 5/11/22 at 11:31 pm to
Yes
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
15818 posts
Posted on 5/11/22 at 11:40 pm to
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1 game anomaly


While understanding playoffs vs reg season, but I heard on the radio today that they were 20-5 without him. Not an anomaly.
Posted by Kurt Eichenwald
Tentacle, USA
Member since Oct 2017
265 posts
Posted on 5/11/22 at 11:59 pm to
What they really needed in this series was Steven Adams.
Posted by 504Voodoo
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2012
13544 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 1:04 am to
quote:

It’s easy to win by 40 when everything is going your way. Last game in crunch time they needed him badly. At the end of the game you need a player that can create his own shot.



Exactly. Both teams played like dog crap until the 4th qtr when the only superstar in the court took over and scored 18pts in the 4th qtr.

Ja has played at a top 10 level all season long. Your team is not better without him.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14578 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 6:35 am to
I mean.....20-5? That's a pretty large regular season sample size....just sayin.
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
10935 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 6:53 am to
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I mean.....20-5? That's a pretty large regular season sample size....just sayin.


Was it against playoff teams or cupcakes?
Posted by VolsOut4Harambe
Atlanta, GA
Member since Sep 2017
12856 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 6:55 am to
You can’t replace a superstar. I say no.

But they do seem to play better defense.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96706 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 7:19 am to
In general, NOT better with Ja off the court.

Them having a major turnaround last night is more along the lines of Mike Brown being a crap coach in place of Kerr and that the Warriors are on a short rotation due to injuries and don’t really have the bigs to bang with the likes of Adams.


That’s a matchup issue and not going to be the case if they play Phoenix in the conference finals because Phoenix has the speed to make Adams a major liability.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25953 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 7:33 am to
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Them having a major turnaround last night is more along the lines of Mike Brown being a crap coach



since i don't think we did this yet, let's all laugh at how stupid the Kings are, having the longest playoff drought in the league and they go hire a retread head coach in Mike Brown who's been fired 3 times for sucking.
Have they not learned the lesson that all these other teams recently that hired retread losers, who sucked yet again, as opposed to those hiring guys that have worked their way up into earning a shot at a head coaches position like Nurse, Willie, Finch, Udoka, Jenkins, etc.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96706 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 7:37 am to
Another finalist was Mark Jackson.

Brown’s an idiot but Jackson is utterly toxic and that is why he hasn’t coached since the Warriors canned him.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59711 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 7:44 am to
The teams know a lot more about what goes on behind closed doors than fans. Didn’t people universally crap on the Jason Kidd hire too? Seems to have worked out great. As a fan you have maybe 1% of the information to make decision that the front offices do. coaches are very low on the totem pole oftentimes their teams can underperform thru little fault of their own.

Anyway, Coach brown is 9th all time in win % for coaches with over 500 games. Ahead of Nick nurse. Ahead of guys like spoelstra and lue who also coached lebron. But you can never argue that the lebron rosters that Brown coached were better than the ones that coach Lue and Spo coached. BRown has won BIG.
This post was edited on 5/12/22 at 8:00 am
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14435 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 7:52 am to
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Was it against playoff teams or cupcakes?


A dozen cupcakes. That stat is garbage.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25953 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 8:06 am to
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BRown has won BIG.



Lebron won big, not Brown.
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