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re: Appalachian State, Georgia Southern Joining Sun Belt Conference

Posted on 3/25/13 at 2:37 pm to
Posted by tween the hedges
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 2:37 pm to
I hope GSU gets a huge reality check.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 2:37 pm to
Posted by GeauxColonels
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 2:44 pm to
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Making the jump to FBS.

quote:

FIFY

FIFBOY
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 2:51 pm to
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Not really... get off of I40 and stay on 321 all the way up. Boone is maybe 45 minutes, max, off of interstate.



I think he's talking about the whole gas gobbling climbing a mountain part
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 2:51 pm to
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I hope GSU gets a huge reality check.



And what might that be?
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 2:57 pm to
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I think he's talking about the whole gas gobbling climbing a mountain part


I'm from South Louisiana. Driving over a steep molehill is a bitch to me.
Posted by Baers Foot
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 3:01 pm to
Besides the temporary perception hit, I like the App State add. Georgia Southern
Posted by hiltacular
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 3:05 pm to
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Georgia Southern doesnt recruit the Atlanta area as much as you probably think.

4 of the top 6 are metro atlanta counties.

Fall 2012
Row # County n %
1 Gwinnett 1,631 7.9
2 Bulloch 1,543 7.5
3 Fulton 1,436 7.0
4 Cobb 1,354 6.6
5 Chatham 1,046 5.1
6 Dekalb 952 4.6
7 Columbia 580 2.8
8 Effingham 535 2.6
9 Henry 450 2.2
10 Fayette 434 2.1
11 Houston 426 2.1
12 Richmond 371 1.8
13 Bryan 352 1.7
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 3:06 pm to
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Besides the temporary perception hit, I like the App State add.


See, I actually think the perception will be that the 'Belt added a good football program, not a good FCS program. Maybe I'm naive in that regard. I just don't think people will look at it as a negative.

Georgia Southern, I really don't know a whole lot about, so I can't really comment.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 3:09 pm to
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Besides the temporary perception hit, I like the App State add. Georgia Southern


Why unsure about GSU? GSU has 2x as many national titles as ASU and is the most storied FCS program in history.
Posted by Baers Foot
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 3:10 pm to
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See, I actually think the perception will be that the 'Belt added a good football program, not a good FCS program. Maybe I'm naive in that regard. I just don't think people will look at it as a negative.

Georgia Southern, I really don't know a whole lot about, so I can't really comment.


I'm more-so talking about the conference perception that high school recruits will have, not fans. Before the conference realignment dust settles, and before conference superiority between the non-AQ conferences is determined on the field, recruiters from non-AQ/non-SBC schools will point out that the SBC is a FCS feeder/bottom of the barrel conference.

Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 3:10 pm to
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Fall 2012
Row # County n %
1 Gwinnett 1,631 7.9
2 Bulloch 1,543 7.5
3 Fulton 1,436 7.0
4 Cobb 1,354 6.6
5 Chatham 1,046 5.1
6 Dekalb 952 4.6
7 Columbia 580 2.8
8 Effingham 535 2.6
9 Henry 450 2.2
10 Fayette 434 2.1
11 Houston 426 2.1
12 Richmond 371 1.8
13 Bryan 352 1.7


Is that school population?

I'm talking about recruiting. GSU gets an awful lot of players from south GA and north Florida. Afterall that's where the school is geographically located.
Posted by Baers Foot
Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 3:12 pm to
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Why unsure about GSU? GSU has 2x as many national titles as ASU and is the most storied FCS program in history.



No offense, but I didn't know that. Good to know.

WKU was a great FCS program, and it took them a little while to compete in football.
Posted by Dr RC
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 3:17 pm to
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I hope GSU gets a huge reality check.




they are moving up from the Southern Conference to the Sun Belt.

you think they are going to get slaughtered now or something?

its a step up but not that big a step.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
72435 posts
Posted on 3/25/13 at 3:26 pm to
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No offense, but I didn't know that. Good to know.

WKU was a great FCS program, and it took them a little while to compete in football.



May come as a little shock, but of the 9 current Sun Belt members who were former FCS/I-AA teams, they combine to have 2 FCS/I-AA football national titles.

Appalachian State has 3
Georgia Southern has 6

So those 2 teams are bringing in a combined 9 football national titles to the Sun Belt where the other 9 teams have a total of just 2. It's 2 great storied programs. Much better than any of the other ones that moved up.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
72435 posts
Posted on 3/25/13 at 3:29 pm to
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they are moving up from the Southern Conference to the Sun Belt.

you think they are going to get slaughtered now or something?

its a step up but not that big a step


It's way more of a step up from a money/exposure standpoint than even competition. I'd go bet if you pitted the Sun Belt up against the best FCS conferences normally (SoCon, CAA, Big Sky, etc) the results would be pretty even, likely slightly in favor of the Sun Belt due to depth (85 vs. 63 scholarship players allowed). A lot of folks dont realize the entire Sun Belt sans ULL is former FCS teams that all recently moved up in the last 20 years. 5 of the 9 in the last decade.

Where GSU/ASU will see the biggest jump up in competition is instead of playing 1 BCS conference team OOC now they will see more like 3 a year.
Posted by Baers Foot
Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns
Member since Dec 2011
3924 posts
Posted on 3/25/13 at 3:29 pm to
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May come as a little shock, but of the 9 current Sun Belt members who were former FCS/I-AA teams, they combine to have 2 FCS/I-AA football national titles.

Appalachian State has 3
Georgia Southern has 6

So those 2 teams are bringing in a combined 9 football national titles to the Sun Belt where the other 9 teams have a total of just 2. It's 2 great storied programs. Much better than any of the other ones that moved up.


Nice try Scott Farmer.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 3:31 pm to
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Nice try Scott Farmer.

Posted by Baers Foot
Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns
Member since Dec 2011
3924 posts
Posted on 3/25/13 at 3:36 pm to
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thunderbird1100


I'm just pickin'. Our athletic director, Scott Farmer, is a GSU alum. A lot of people seem to believe he's loving the idea of being in the same conference of GSU and Troy (where he got his first gigs in AD offices).
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
72435 posts
Posted on 3/25/13 at 3:37 pm to
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I'm just pickin'. Our athletic director, Scott Farmer, is a GSU alum. A lot of people seem to believe he's loving the idea of being in the same conference of GSU and Troy (where he got his first gigs in AD offices).



Oh gotcha, I just had no idea who that was
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