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re: AP source: Jaguars void Fournette’s contract guarantees
Posted on 12/31/18 at 7:43 am to DBG
Posted on 12/31/18 at 7:43 am to DBG
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The Jags are going to frick themselves if this is true
How do you figure that? Fournette isn't a team player in what is a team sport. I am not bashing him. I don't think he is a bad guy or anything like that. He has just proven time and time again that he puts his own personal interest in front of everything else including win games.
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Posted on 12/31/18 at 7:49 am to Ponchy Tiger
Running Back isn't a key position - Jags were dumb for drafting so high.
The difference between best RB and 32nd best RB is so small particualy compared to QB
The difference between best RB and 32nd best RB is so small particualy compared to QB
Posted on 12/31/18 at 8:02 am to Ponchy Tiger
quote:his actions have bashed himself.
How do you figure that? Fournette isn't a team player in what is a team sport. I am not bashing him. I don't think he is a bad guy or anything like that. He has just proven time and time again that he puts his own personal interest in front of everything else including win games.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 8:32 am to St Augustine
i remember the rant having a goddamn meltdown when i said fournette lacked vision
he hit holes and made long runs when the LBs committed too far upfield (or the occassional toss), but his actual running was based on his FB
it's no shock that in the NFL he's facing issues. and apparently, he's soft and isn't working at all
he hit holes and made long runs when the LBs committed too far upfield (or the occassional toss), but his actual running was based on his FB
it's no shock that in the NFL he's facing issues. and apparently, he's soft and isn't working at all
Posted on 12/31/18 at 8:52 am to SPEEDY
WHOA.................. 
Posted on 12/31/18 at 8:55 am to SlowFlowPro
I’m curious if his lack of work ethic is increasing his lack of playing time by not recovering from injuries as he should and missing games more often?
If a guy has no desire to play as much as possible and get back onto the field, then I could see a team not wanting them any longer.
Most nfl vets will tell you they can determine within 2-3 practices whether a guy will last or not. Playing in the nfl requires a ton of heart and determination due to so much wear and tear on their bodies. Guys that don’t have the heart to recover and stay on the field, simply don’t last.
If a guy has no desire to play as much as possible and get back onto the field, then I could see a team not wanting them any longer.
Most nfl vets will tell you they can determine within 2-3 practices whether a guy will last or not. Playing in the nfl requires a ton of heart and determination due to so much wear and tear on their bodies. Guys that don’t have the heart to recover and stay on the field, simply don’t last.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 8:58 am to baldona
it is somewhat shocking that LF, who is effectively a power back these days, sits out for injuries so often
he's certainly salvageable, but i have no clue where he thinks he fits in the NFL. he bulked up for the combine and is bigger now. he gets dinged up and sits out for stuff he could play through. he's quickly becoming a man without a position in the neo-NFL
he's certainly salvageable, but i have no clue where he thinks he fits in the NFL. he bulked up for the combine and is bigger now. he gets dinged up and sits out for stuff he could play through. he's quickly becoming a man without a position in the neo-NFL
Posted on 12/31/18 at 9:00 am to SlowFlowPro
He lacks vision, balance and lower body power. He isn't the elite athlete or talent he is made out to be. He is overweight and injury prone.
His 28" vertical at the combine already showed lack of lower body explosion that he was not the athlete we thought he was.
4ypc is the standard for average RBs and even in his 1k yard season he still failed to reach the average standard.
We have 2 years worth of film to clearly see he is a slightly below average back in the NFL.
The fact he was taken 4th overall and given so much upfront money is a franchise killer.
His 28" vertical at the combine already showed lack of lower body explosion that he was not the athlete we thought he was.
4ypc is the standard for average RBs and even in his 1k yard season he still failed to reach the average standard.
We have 2 years worth of film to clearly see he is a slightly below average back in the NFL.
The fact he was taken 4th overall and given so much upfront money is a franchise killer.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 9:04 am to BhamDore
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The fact he was taken 4th overall and given so much upfront money is a franchise killer.
yeah that's going to leave a mark
barkley is going to face similar issues with expectations, but at least he fits in the modern NFL, barkley's rushing also had similar issues to LF last year, but he made up for it by ripping off a long run in most games to get his ypc up. and then his pass catching and route running makes him a big threat (and can soften the blow of over-drafting him)
Posted on 12/31/18 at 9:08 am to BhamDore
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He isn't the elite athlete or talent he is made out to be.
The 40 time he ran at the combine, at that weight was unprecedented
He lost weight this year to get down to the 220s.
His vision isn’t great though. I’ve said that forever. His speed for his size is pretty elite & I think that makes him an athletic marvel
Posted on 12/31/18 at 9:22 am to BowDownToLSU
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I applaud Coughlin finally someone has stood up to the players
Oh good lord. Players are cut all the time for being dumbasses.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 9:34 am to SPEEDY
I wonder how much of that 18 million signing bonus Leonard has left? Isn't he a spender? And he's not Trent Richardson bad, but he's not a very good NFL RB.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 9:38 am to Skillet
He certainly likes to flaunt his money on instagram.
I kinda feel bad for him though. I'm sure he's very frustrated with injuries, but I feel like Jacksonville rushed him back too soon a few times.
I kinda feel bad for him though. I'm sure he's very frustrated with injuries, but I feel like Jacksonville rushed him back too soon a few times.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 9:43 am to J Murdah
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I kinda feel bad for him though.
Not me. I could care less about Leonard.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 9:55 am to Lester Earl
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His vision isn’t great though. I’ve said that forever. His speed for his size is pretty elite & I think that makes him an athletic marvel
This.
In terms of size + speed + power combination, LF is near the the top of that list.
But, in today’s NFL, the top backs like Gurley, Bell, Kamara, Zeke, Barkley, etc. all have 1 thing in common.... and that’s the ability to make people miss. LF doesn’t have much shake or wiggle to his game and pair that with his below average vision, it’s not a great combination for today’s NFL.
I sure hope LF can figure it out though.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 9:56 am to Lester Earl
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The 40 time he ran at the combine, at that weight was unprecedented
240lbs at the combine should have been a red flag as well. 4.51 at 240 is good,but not elite. Derrick Henry was 247lbs and ran 4.53.
That 28" vertical though was the 2nd worse of any RB since the year 2000.
Saquaon Barkley had elite combine numbers and it is showing that he is an elite back. He ran 4.40 at 230 lbs. He also had a 41" inch vertical showing extreme lower body strength and explosion. He also had 29 reps on the bench press which was more than most offensive lineman.
Leonard peaked in highschool and didn't have the work ethic to reach a new level.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 10:01 am to GatorsGators
This thing is going to be disallowed by players union. Voiding a rookie contract before its complete fricks up the salary cap rules and its not clear what happens on his next contract. Total stunt by Jags.
This post was edited on 12/31/18 at 10:02 am
Posted on 12/31/18 at 10:10 am to BhamDore
From NFL.com's draft profile weaknesses
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Doesn't make many defenders miss with open field shake. Aggressive, take-on style could lead to shortened career. Struggles to elude sudden traffic at line of scrimmage. Lacks looseness of hips to jump-cut from gap to gap. Struggled with a bad ankle for most of the season. Plays through a straw. Excitable runner in need of more patience. Too quick to hit the accelerator and slam into defenders when there are still cuts and yards left in the play. Runs to obvious daylight but needs to learn to anticipate and finesse the crease in traffic. Doesn't see cutback lanes developing as outside zone runner and prefers to keep runs play-side. Throws half-hearted, grazing shoulder as chip blocker. Pass protection and routes need extensive work.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 10:12 am to BhamDore
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4.51 at 240 is good,but not elite.
On what you planet is that not elite at that weight?
I think that is the fastest mark at the combine by any RB over 240 lbs
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That 28" vertical though was the 2nd worse of any RB since the year 2000.
So what?
he proved to be explosive regardless. He had the fastest recorded foot speed in the nfl last year on any singular play. The guy is a freak Yea he’s not saquon Barkley but no one is. In order to be a freak athlete you need 1 or 2 other worldly traits & he has that with the way he moves at that size
Posted on 12/31/18 at 10:17 am to Lester Earl
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He had the fastest recorded foot speed in the nfl last year on any singular play. The guy is a freak
SO... His vision takes all that away............
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