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re: Anyone else surprised baseball is still popular in the United States?
Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:39 pm to GaBassFisher92
Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:39 pm to GaBassFisher92
quote:
And this article does a good job of explaining why national tv ratings aren't a good way to judge the popularity of baseball
...and that article is clearly written by a baseball apologist.
...and the reasons given in support of his conclusion that tv ratings don't matter -- i.e. "baseball is no longer a national sport" -- are essentially admissions, in and of themselves, that baseball's popularity is declining.
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Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:39 pm to bobbyray21
quote:Yup Fox Regional Network showed a 20% increase in rating for it's markets, along with other regional markets showing an increase in Philadelphia, KC, Detroit, Washington, New York
you think they're watching the rest of the games?
quote:You will see for national television the rating have decreased... this can be attributed to more people watching regional games
I can't quickly find television ratings numbers for the entirety of the season
Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:40 pm to bobbyray21
It's pretty simple. You find well-written articles to back-up your claims and post them.
Similar to this:
LINK
Or you can continue to just post two graphs and make ridiculous assertions.
Similar to this:
LINK
Or you can continue to just post two graphs and make ridiculous assertions.
This post was edited on 4/1/13 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:40 pm to F machine
quote:
but they are saying it's the second most popular
For now
Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:41 pm to bobbyray21
quote:
bobbyray21
The random chart posting game, I'll play
Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:41 pm to TreyAnastasio
quote:Well yeah CFB will become second most popular sport probably by next season and baseball will be #3
For now
Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:42 pm to barry
Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:42 pm to TheOcean
quote:
It's pretty simple. You find well-written articles to back-up your claims and post them.
Similar to this:
LINK
Or you can continue to just post two graphs and make ridiculous assertions.
Sure thing, guy:
Football, Baseball, and the Evolving Tastes of Fans
Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:43 pm to barry
quote:
The random chart posting game, I'll play
They aren't random. They show stuff. Thank you for actually presenting evidence.
Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:43 pm to GaBassFisher92
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The 2012 Harris Poll has baseball at 16%.
Notice that poll was conducted in mid-December, when the NFL season is nearing peak interest and MLB is in a dead period. While the NFL is clearly most popular, a similar poll conducted in July or August would likely show MLB in the 18-20% range. An on-line poll in a sport's offseason is a weak measuring stick of interest.
Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:43 pm to rutiger
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baseball is an intellectual sport, probably why you dont get it.
The MLB will never completely go away, but it's been fading for a long time now
Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:43 pm to bobbyray21
There ya go 
Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:44 pm to TreyAnastasio
quote:
but they are saying it's the second most popular
For now
Will be for a while.
Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:44 pm to F machine
quote:
but they are saying it's the second most popular
For now
Will be for a while.
But you agree it is trending downwards.
This post was edited on 4/1/13 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:44 pm to F machine
quote:
The championship for every sport, with the the exception of football, has probably been in decline over the past 20-30 years.
the ratings for everything, save the Super Bowl, has been declining for the past 20-30 years. This thing called cable TV happened.
The highest rated show in 2011 was American Idol, with a 14.4 share. In 1991, Cheers got a 21.3. In 1981, Dallas got a 34.5.
TV is clearly about to go out of business.
Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:46 pm to bobbyray21
Here's a larger sample size.
Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:47 pm to Baloo
quote:
the ratings for everything, save the Super Bowl, has been declining for the past 20-30 years. This thing called cable TV happened.
The highest rated show in 2011 was American Idol, with a 14.4 share. In 1991, Cheers got a 21.3. In 1981, Dallas got a 34.5.
TV is clearly about to go out of business.
Well played.
Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:48 pm to TigerintheNO
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2011 World Series= Game 7 is the single highest-rated Friday night program in FOX TV history.
And yet still lower than the last game 7 of the NBA finals
Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:48 pm to Baloo
TV apparently needs football to stay in business.
For the season, NFL games rank as 31 of the 32 most-watched TV shows since Labor Day. Following are the most-watched programs this fall:
Program Viewers
1. NBC Sunday Night Football (Cowboys-Redskins), 12/30 30.3 million
2. FOX Thanksgiving Game (Redskins-Cowboys), 11/22 28.7 million
3. NBC Sunday Night Football (Steelers-Broncos), 9/9 27.6 million
4. CBS Thanksgiving Game (Texans-Lions), 11/22 27.3 million
5. FOX Sunday National (mostly Giants-Cowboys), 10/28 26.9 million
6. CBS Sunday National (mostly Steelers-Cowboys), 12/16 26.9 million
7. FOX Sunday National (mostly Packers-Vikings), 12/30 26.4 million
8.FOX Sunday National (mostly 49ers-Packers), 9/9 26.4 million
9. FOX Sunday National (mostly 49ers-Saints), 11/25 24.9 million
10. CBS Sunday National (mostly Broncos-Patriots), 10/7 24.5 million
11. FOX Sunday National (mostly Saints-Giants), 12/9 24.5 million
12. FOX Sunday National (mostly Cowboys-Eagles), 11/11 24.3 million
13. FOX Sunday National (mostly Giants-Ravens),12/23 24.2 million
14. CBS Sunday National (mostly Steelers-Giants), 11/4 24.2 million
15. CBS Sunday National (mostly Texans-Broncos), 9/23 24.0 million
16. NBC Wed. Night Kickoff Game (Cowboys-Giants), 9/5 23.9 million
17. CBS Sunday National (Indy-NE & SD-Den), 11/18 23.6 million
18. NBC Sunday Night Football (49ers-Patriots), 12/16 23.2 million
19. CBS Sunday National (mostly Steelers-Ravens), 12/2 23.0 million
20. CBS Sunday National (mostly Jets-Patriots), 10/21 23.0 million
21. FOX Sunday National (mostly Giants-49ers), 10/14 22.8 million
22. NBC Sunday Night Football (Giants-Eagles), 9/30 22.8 million
23. NBC Macy’s Thanksgiving Parade, 11/22 22.4 million
24. FOX Sunday National (mostly Saints-Packers), 9/30 22.3 million
25. NBC Sunday Night Football (Cowboys-Falcons), 11/4 21.8 million
26. FOX Sunday Single (mostly NYG-ATL & GB-Chi), 12/16 21.4 million
27. NBC Sunday Night Football (Lions-Packers), 12/9 21.4 million
28. NBC Sunday Night Football (Lions-49ers), 9/16 21.3 million
29. NBC Sunday Night Football (Patriots-Ravens), 9/23 21.3 million
30. FOX Sunday Single (mostly Minn-GB & TB-Den), 12/2 20.9 million
31. NBC Sunday Night Football (Texans-Bears), 11/11 20.9 million
32. NBC Sunday Night Football (Packers-Giants), 11/25 20.9 million
For the season, NFL games rank as 31 of the 32 most-watched TV shows since Labor Day. Following are the most-watched programs this fall:
Program Viewers
1. NBC Sunday Night Football (Cowboys-Redskins), 12/30 30.3 million
2. FOX Thanksgiving Game (Redskins-Cowboys), 11/22 28.7 million
3. NBC Sunday Night Football (Steelers-Broncos), 9/9 27.6 million
4. CBS Thanksgiving Game (Texans-Lions), 11/22 27.3 million
5. FOX Sunday National (mostly Giants-Cowboys), 10/28 26.9 million
6. CBS Sunday National (mostly Steelers-Cowboys), 12/16 26.9 million
7. FOX Sunday National (mostly Packers-Vikings), 12/30 26.4 million
8.FOX Sunday National (mostly 49ers-Packers), 9/9 26.4 million
9. FOX Sunday National (mostly 49ers-Saints), 11/25 24.9 million
10. CBS Sunday National (mostly Broncos-Patriots), 10/7 24.5 million
11. FOX Sunday National (mostly Saints-Giants), 12/9 24.5 million
12. FOX Sunday National (mostly Cowboys-Eagles), 11/11 24.3 million
13. FOX Sunday National (mostly Giants-Ravens),12/23 24.2 million
14. CBS Sunday National (mostly Steelers-Giants), 11/4 24.2 million
15. CBS Sunday National (mostly Texans-Broncos), 9/23 24.0 million
16. NBC Wed. Night Kickoff Game (Cowboys-Giants), 9/5 23.9 million
17. CBS Sunday National (Indy-NE & SD-Den), 11/18 23.6 million
18. NBC Sunday Night Football (49ers-Patriots), 12/16 23.2 million
19. CBS Sunday National (mostly Steelers-Ravens), 12/2 23.0 million
20. CBS Sunday National (mostly Jets-Patriots), 10/21 23.0 million
21. FOX Sunday National (mostly Giants-49ers), 10/14 22.8 million
22. NBC Sunday Night Football (Giants-Eagles), 9/30 22.8 million
23. NBC Macy’s Thanksgiving Parade, 11/22 22.4 million
24. FOX Sunday National (mostly Saints-Packers), 9/30 22.3 million
25. NBC Sunday Night Football (Cowboys-Falcons), 11/4 21.8 million
26. FOX Sunday Single (mostly NYG-ATL & GB-Chi), 12/16 21.4 million
27. NBC Sunday Night Football (Lions-Packers), 12/9 21.4 million
28. NBC Sunday Night Football (Lions-49ers), 9/16 21.3 million
29. NBC Sunday Night Football (Patriots-Ravens), 9/23 21.3 million
30. FOX Sunday Single (mostly Minn-GB & TB-Den), 12/2 20.9 million
31. NBC Sunday Night Football (Texans-Bears), 11/11 20.9 million
32. NBC Sunday Night Football (Packers-Giants), 11/25 20.9 million
Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:48 pm to TheOcean
Baseball isn't the same national game that football is.
Also you have 81 opportunities to see your home team play live. You have 41 in the NBA and 8 in the NFL and CFB on average. So TV ratings are gonna be higher. The regional ratings for clubs are really strong. It may not be the number 1 sport any more, but it is not in any way shape or form "in trouble". People are going to ball games and thats what matters.
All-star viewing is down because you can easily see any play play any game on your TV, tablet or iphone 162 different times. The all-star game had more appeal because you didn't get to see those guys play all the time.
Also you have 81 opportunities to see your home team play live. You have 41 in the NBA and 8 in the NFL and CFB on average. So TV ratings are gonna be higher. The regional ratings for clubs are really strong. It may not be the number 1 sport any more, but it is not in any way shape or form "in trouble". People are going to ball games and thats what matters.
All-star viewing is down because you can easily see any play play any game on your TV, tablet or iphone 162 different times. The all-star game had more appeal because you didn't get to see those guys play all the time.
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