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re: Anyone else surprised baseball is still popular in the United States?

Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:23 pm to
Posted by GaBassFisher92
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Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:23 pm to
And according to that poll Baseball's popularity has has stabilized in the 14-17% range. In fact it's popularity has improved slightly since the mid 2000's. From 2002-2007 baseball was in the 13-15% range, since then baseball has been in the 16-17% range outside of 2011. The 2012 Harris Poll has baseball at 16%.
Posted by motorbreath
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Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:23 pm to
The greatest sport in the history of sport is here for the next 7 months and for the rest of eternity....DEAL WITH IT
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:23 pm to
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constantly ice the puck as in hockey to kill time.

This would be very unwise.
Posted by alajones
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Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:25 pm to
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Popularity was given in the Harris pole earlier that was taken in 2011. MLB came in at #2 behind NFL but tied with CFB
Well yeah, but 20 years ago what does that poll say? 50 years ago?

I think the youth sport baseball decline is a different subject. Lots of kids play tee ball just as much as soccer, but coaches and parents as well as a big commitment (travelling, money) disuade continuing the sport more than the actual game. Just my 2 cents.
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Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:25 pm to
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:25 pm to
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It's indicative of decreased viewership over a 30 year timespan with a clear downward trend. Factors that have caused the ratings to decrease: fewer people watching baseball. Any more brainbusters for me?


Posted by GaBassFisher92
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Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:26 pm to
Also according to that Harris Poll there is one pro sport that's popularity is in a clear decline over the last decade, and it's not baseball.
This post was edited on 4/1/13 at 3:27 pm
Posted by bobbyray21
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Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:26 pm to
Posted by bobbyray21
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Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:26 pm to
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TheOcean


You're embarrassing yourself.
Posted by alajones
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Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:27 pm to
How did viewership increase in 94?
Posted by TreyAnastasio
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Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:27 pm to
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You're embarrassing yourself.


He's used to it

No one wants to comment on this?

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From 2000 to 2009, the latest year for which figures are available, the number of kids aged 7 to 17 playing baseball fell 24%, according to the National Sporting Goods Association, an industry trade group. Despite growing concerns about the long-term effects of concussions, participation in youth tackle football has soared 21% over the same time span, while ice hockey jumped 38%. The Sporting Goods Manufacturing Association, another industry trade group, said baseball participation fell 12.7% for the overall population.
Posted by F machine
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Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:28 pm to
The championship for every sport, with the the exception of football, has probably been in decline over the past 20-30 years.
Posted by GaBassFisher92
Dublin, Georgia
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:28 pm to
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The greatest sport in the history of sport is here for the next 7 months and for the rest of eternity....DEAL WITH IT
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:29 pm to
So far your entire argument as to why baseball's popularity is not increasing is due to viewership ratings from the world series and all star game. Not to mention, all you did was post the graphs.

You might make the worst arguments on TD.com. PJesque.
Posted by GaBassFisher92
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:31 pm to
And this article does a good job of explaining why national tv ratings aren't a good way to judge the popularity of baseball
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Baseball is a regional game now. That's not an original observation. I didn't come up with it. But it's true. In 1970, baseball was a national sport, and the ratings for the national games reflected that. In 2012, the game is a regional sport, and the local and national ratings reflect that as well. People in Chicago don't care about Seattle, and people in Seattle don't care about Los Angeles. But they sure as heck care about their own teams, and the television deals prove that.
This post was edited on 4/1/13 at 3:33 pm
Posted by bobbyray21
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Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:34 pm to
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So far your entire argument as to why baseball's popularity is not increasing is due to viewership ratings from the world series and all star game. Not to mention, all you did was post the graphs.

You might make the worst arguments on TD.com. PJesque.


Really you're reaching.

1. If people aren't watching the all-star game and the world series, you think they're watching the rest of the games?

2. I can't quickly find television ratings numbers for the entirety of the season, over various past seasons. If you can find those numbers, I invite you to post them. I am confident they show a similar trend.

3. Would you like for me to take the information from the graphs and present to you in table format?

4. Any other requests? A hand job? A reach-around? Just let me know how I can help ya out, buddy.
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:35 pm to
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Man, baseball fans get real defensive.


Most people do when they're fighting a losing battle. This thread is full of last man standing bravado.

I think baseball is great in the playoffs and WS - and it's a great sport to play when you're young.

But the reality is - the way it is set up as a spectator sport vs. a participation sport is devised around a bygone era. Today's society doesn't have time to come home from work and watch 162 4-hour spectacles over 7-8 months. It's a hard sport to follow beyond checking standings periodically or watching the occasional weekend game.

By contrast, football - both college and Pro is basically once a week and 4 months...and in football - especially college - each game takes on far greater significance. It's just the way it is.
Posted by Wally Sparks
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Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:36 pm to
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People in Chicago don't care about Seattle, and people in Seattle don't care about Los Angeles. But they sure as heck care about their own teams, and the television deals prove that.


Yet ESPN thinks the rest of the country gives a shite about BOS-NYY.
Posted by F machine
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Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:38 pm to
I kinda think you missed the point others were making. Not one person here disputed baseball is more popular than football, but they are saying it's the second most popular. I would agree with that.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
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Posted on 4/1/13 at 3:38 pm to
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So far your entire argument as to why baseball's popularity is not increasing is due to viewership ratings from the world series and all star game


Let's put the World Series TV viewers in prespective

2011 World Series= Game 7 is the single highest-rated Friday night program in FOX TV history.

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The World Series remains an annual force in prime time. Game 7's dominating performance (14.5) also powered FOX to first place finishes in prime time six out of 7 nights the 2011 "Fall Classic" was broadcast. Since 1996 when FOX began airing World Series games, the network has won 64 out of 75 prime time nights, an incredible 85% performance.
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