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re: Anthony Edwards: Outside of Jordan, nobody in the NBA had any skills until Kobe came along

Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:21 am to
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70821 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:21 am to
Nope, NBA teams were playing zone and trapping full court in the 1980s which has been proven many times with articles and video on this board. You’re dishonest he’s just ignorant
Posted by Dairy Sanders
Member since Apr 2022
2963 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:23 am to
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That doesn’t matter. 3 > 2. They’ll willingly trade post up 2’s for 3’s. And on defense Shaq would be taken to the perimeter and abused in today’s game.


Lol no he wouldn’t. Under today’s rules he can camp out near the rim and be the GOAT rim protector.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70821 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:25 am to
Notice all the conflicting arguments they make? They don’t understand what they’re talking about and they’re married to their ignorant bias.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17593 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:38 am to
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I didn't watch it back in the day so I can't speak on it
Posted by Toadfrggy82
Kaplan, La
Member since Aug 2023
1565 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:43 am to
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90’s NBA was horrible. All of the great players of the 80’s were gone by 92 outside of Barkley and Olajuwon.


Forgot someone?
Posted by Ryan3232
Valet driver for TD staff
Member since Dec 2008
27591 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:48 am to
“I can’t speak on it since I didnt watch, but let me tell you what I think.”

He’d be a great journalist.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
28024 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:52 am to
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He's going to shift from a discussion about the rules to one about the refs, to avoid admitting reality.
I don’t know what else to tell him. We’re obviously right. He’s sitting here telling us zone existed in the NBA in the 80’s and 90’s. It’s just factually wrong and there’s not really anything else more to be said to someone who rejects easily verifiable facts.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70821 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:55 am to
More irony
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
35678 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 11:00 am to
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The NBA was pretty shitty in the 80s and 90s if we are just being honest


90's maybe. 80's no.

Before Magic v Bird, it was commonplace for the Finals to be broadcast on tape delay. Literally, CBS didn't broadcast the deciding game 6 of the 1980 Finals to most of the country until 11:30 pm (ET)!!!...even though the game tipped 2.5 hours earlier. The reason is because they didn't want to bump The Dukes of Hazzard and Dallas to broadcast the game live. THAT'S how irrelevant the NBA was at the time.

The Celtics/Lakers rivalry was massive and increased the NBA's popularity significantly. You also still had guys like Kareem and Dr. J playing. Those factors, combined with the marriage of Jordan and Nike exploded the NBA.

You had superstars that stayed on the same teams and didn't try to "pair up" to chase rings. Teams generally stayed together...which created great, and often heated, rivalries. Prior to the 1980's the NBA was a DISTANT third to MLB and NFL in interest/popularity.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216476 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 11:36 am to
There are a ton of people on here who didn’t watch but THINzk they know.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70821 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 11:50 am to
The Lakers used to play zone against MJ all the time. They did it in the 90 finals, there’s video of it everywhere. The Pistons used to play this weird 3-2 zone against him before they came up with the idea of just beating him into submission. The Sonics trapped, the Celtics trapped full court all game sometimes, the Bulls trapped, the Bucks played a lot of zone. This is all just one google or YouTube video away but notice he’d prefer to repeat his BS than just look and find out. Too scared to face reality seems to be a running theme with guys like that.
This post was edited on 8/21/24 at 11:54 am
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
28024 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 12:08 pm to
Sending double teams is not a zone. Zone means defending space on the floor, not a man. That was illegal.

You could kind of play zone as long as you didn’t venture beyond the lines you were limited to by the illegal defense rules based on where your “man” was. But it’s still not a true zone.
This post was edited on 8/21/24 at 12:12 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70821 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 12:12 pm to
No it was illegal to stand 8 feet below your man if he was outside the arc and 6 feet below if he was under it. Again you don’t know what the rules were and again you refuse to just do a quick search to inform yourself and your argument which only proves you’re not objective about the topic and are just repeating garbage you read somewhere. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
This post was edited on 8/21/24 at 12:14 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70821 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 12:16 pm to
“But it’s still not a true zone.”


Neither are the defenses of today
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
28024 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 12:20 pm to
There’s a lot more to it than that. If the ball is on the opposite side of the floor than your man, you can’t go into the paint.

You could literally iso with an entire side of the floor open. Teams used to exploit this all the time. They’d send their non-shooting center out to the 3-point line and his man had to follow him outside the paint.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70821 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 12:20 pm to
No that was taken out in the 80s because of MJ
This post was edited on 8/21/24 at 12:21 pm
Posted by faraway
Member since Nov 2022
3821 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 12:21 pm to
dude is an idiot. he should shut up so people won't know.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
28024 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 12:26 pm to
Late 80’s. But it was the rule for a long time. And isolation was still exploited with all iterations of the rule. You could still take the big man out of the paint on the weak side and big men on offense had a lot easier time than they do now.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70821 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 12:29 pm to
So you think Greg Ostertag at the three point line is going to deter a double team on someone like Barkley or MJ? Besides that has nothing to do with the point which you were incorrect about.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Lift every voice and sing
Member since Oct 2011
41221 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 12:32 pm to
96 team would struggle with Jokic too. And good luck to them trying to stop KD, Steph, Lebron.
This post was edited on 8/21/24 at 12:34 pm
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