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re: Anthony Edwards: Outside of Jordan, nobody in the NBA had any skills until Kobe came along
Posted on 8/21/24 at 9:47 am to PrimeTime Money
Posted on 8/21/24 at 9:47 am to PrimeTime Money
How ironic
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Posted on 8/21/24 at 9:52 am to Madking
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and now you have more uncontested shots than ever before in the NBA because there are more missed assignments, less communication and way less effort on D.
Or it's due to smarter strategy and higher skills.
Spreading teams out with the 3 and having an understanding of team ball will lead to more uncontested shots, and it would be even worse if the illegal defense rule was still in place. Defenses would have literally no chance to stop a modern offense with the limitations of illegal defense.
Posted on 8/21/24 at 9:55 am to SlowFlowPro
Strategies are simpler not smarter and you don’t understand the defensive rules or changes in either era.
Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:00 am to SlowFlowPro
I don’t think he has a clue how illegal defense rules used to work.
You could literally isolate one guy on an entire side of the court and defenders were not allowed to cross certain points in the floor or they’d be assessed a tech for illegal defense.
One of the main reasons they scrapped the illegal defense rules is because NBA basketball was nothing but an isolation basketball 1 on 1 fest in the 90’s. The games were slow and just 1 on 1. And in the early 00’s, that style didn’t work at all against international teams who were playing much better team basketball.
You could literally isolate one guy on an entire side of the court and defenders were not allowed to cross certain points in the floor or they’d be assessed a tech for illegal defense.
One of the main reasons they scrapped the illegal defense rules is because NBA basketball was nothing but an isolation basketball 1 on 1 fest in the 90’s. The games were slow and just 1 on 1. And in the early 00’s, that style didn’t work at all against international teams who were playing much better team basketball.
This post was edited on 8/21/24 at 10:03 am
Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:01 am to PrimeTime Money
Again so ironic
Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:01 am to Madking
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and you don’t understand the defensive rules or changes in either era.
Explain to me how defenses were better with illegal defense, in your own words.
It was an extremely limited defense that made doubling without the ball illegal/impossible. The defensive rule changes were the most significant help to NBA defenses in decades, as they permitted so much more freedom for defenses to combat offenses.
The same question was asked earlier, but it applies even more to defenses: if the illegal defense rules were so much more advantageous to defenses, why do 0 teams rely on that strategy today? There is nothing in the rules today that prevents teams from playing defense the same way it was required with illegal defense.
Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:02 am to SlowFlowPro
Illegal defense still exists and I’ve already done this for you at least a half dozen times. You don’t know anything about basketball besides what you read in media which has been proven at least a half dozen times as well.
This post was edited on 8/21/24 at 10:04 am
Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:03 am to Madking
quote:You have nothing to say.
Again so ironic
Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:04 am to S
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Just looked at the roster to refresh the memories Yikes. Not trying to undersell Joker here, but stick to tennis buddy.
Jokic is the best basketball player in the world. A team from the 90s would be absolutely lost on what to do with him. Modern teams struggle enough
Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:05 am to PrimeTime Money
You don’t even understated the rules dude yet you’re pompously insulting others claiming they don’t. Thats pretty ironic imo, it’s also ironic having coached the sport for decades listening to internet nerds talk like they know the rules of the game when you clearly don’t.
Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:06 am to Madking
quote:It only exists in the form of 3 seconds in the lane. Other than that, it’s wide open. And players can get within an arm’s length of an offensive player and the clock restarts. So you see centers camp in the lane, then touch an offensive player and count to 2.9, then touch someone, etc.
Illegal defense still exists and I’ve already done this for you at least a half dozen times. You don’t know anything about basketball besides what you read in media which has been proven at least a half dozen times as well.
It’s the most minimal illegal defense rule possible.
It’s called 2-9 and cleanse and it’s a staple of modern defenses.
This post was edited on 8/21/24 at 10:09 am
Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:06 am to therick711
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The 2024 team doesn't have a single player that could keep Shaq, Robinson, or Hakeem in check. They struggled to deal with Jokic.
Do you think Jokic is a bum or something?
Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:09 am to usc6158
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Guy born in 2001 opines on 90s basketball
He just became a hero to the guys on here born in the 90s that they think know every about basketball pre-90s
Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:09 am to Dawgsontop34
Not at all, but Jokic wasn't surrounded by basketball hall of famers and presents a different challenge (still incredibly difficult) than those three did. Robinson, O'Neal, and Olajuwon may not be individually quite as skilled as Jokic, but they are all time greats and there are three of them surrounded by other hall of famers. Serbia had Jokic and Bogdanovic, essentially.
TL;DR Jokic was a massive problem for 2024 (and everyone), so the idea that 2024 USA will wipe out a team with three of the greatest centers of all time because MODERN PLAY is a pipedream.
TL;DR Jokic was a massive problem for 2024 (and everyone), so the idea that 2024 USA will wipe out a team with three of the greatest centers of all time because MODERN PLAY is a pipedream.
This post was edited on 8/21/24 at 10:11 am
Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:09 am to PrimeTime Money
All they did was make the illegal D more lax so that players could play in between a lot more. Zones and double teams all over the floor have always been used in the NBA which for some odd reason you guys have zero knowledge of which is fine, just don’t pretend to know better when you’re actually clueless.
Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:11 am to Madking
quote:Sorry, but it’s you who doesn’t understand the rules. Nobody who understands the rules would make the claims you have unless you’re biased towards the past and are banking on others not knowing the rules.
You don’t even understated the rules dude yet you’re pompously insulting others claiming they don’t. Thats pretty ironic imo, it’s also ironic having coached the sport for decades listening to internet nerds talk like they know the rules of the game when you clearly don’t.
Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:13 am to PrimeTime Money
Wrong and again ironic
Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:14 am to Madking
quote:No. They eliminated it except for 3 in the key.
All they did was make the illegal D more lax so that players could play in between a lot more.
quote:Wrong. Zones absolutely did not exist in the NBA prior to the rule changes.
Zones and double teams all over the floor have always been used in the NBA which for some odd reason you guys have zero knowledge of
And yes, double teams were allowed, but it had to be a hard double. There was no soft double allowed. No hanging in space to help. It was much easier for an isolated player to see the double team coming and pass and swing to the open man.
Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:16 am to PrimeTime Money
Thanks for confirming your ignorance
Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:17 am to PrimeTime Money
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Wrong. Zones absolutely did not exist in the NBA prior to the rule changes.
And yes, double teams were allowed, but it had to be a hard double. There was no soft double allowed. No hanging in space to help. It was much easier for an isolated player to see the double team coming and pass and swing to the open man.
He's going to shift from a discussion about the rules to one about the refs, to avoid admitting reality.
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