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An NFL team needs a QB to win the Superbowl. Prime Brady, Brees, or Manning?
Posted on 2/1/24 at 10:33 am
Posted on 2/1/24 at 10:33 am
Who are you picking to lead the team to win the Superbowl? Prime Brady, Prime Brees, or Prime Manning?
I searched and this hasn't been done before.
I searched and this hasn't been done before.
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Posted on 2/1/24 at 10:34 am to MountainDewGF
I mean this is stupid. I hate Brady but how could you not pick him?
Best player. Best doper
Best player. Best doper
Posted on 2/1/24 at 10:35 am to MountainDewGF
Who has the most super bowls. There is your answer.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 10:38 am to MountainDewGF
I always wondered how Brees would do in the peak NE system. Seems like it would be absolutely perfect for his skill set of hitting the TE and lots of quick hitters requiring accuracy.
I’m taking Brady though.
I’m taking Brady though.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 10:43 am to MountainDewGF
Prime Manning with Brady’s prime defense is your answer
Posted on 2/1/24 at 10:51 am to MountainDewGF
Brock Purdy
Posted on 2/1/24 at 10:54 am to MountainDewGF
I mean Brady actually did it more than once
Posted on 2/1/24 at 11:04 am to MountainDewGF
Joe Montana.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 11:12 am to ghost2most
quote:He really only won more SBs than the other guys due to defense.
I mean this is stupid. I hate Brady but how could you not pick him?
Think about it. Look at the data, Brady wasn't any better than Brees in the playoffs, so how can a guy whose teams actually scored less points and turned the ball over more than another QB win 7 SBs to 1?
Answer - Defense
Please don't mistake this as me saying Brady only won because of defense, he absolutely has a GOAT argument even without any rings. He can also be argued as the pick in the OP's hypothetical. But to say he has more rings than, say, Manning/Brees/Rodgers combined because he's just THAT much better is just wrong IMO. It's because of defense.
Here's an example:
Seasons played with a top 10 defense for their career:
Peyton - 4
Rodgers - 2
Brees - 2
Mahomes - 0
Brady(after he turned 40) - 5
All together, seasons with a top 10 defense:
Brady - 71.4% - 15 out of 21
Peyton - 23.5% - 4 out of 17
Rodgers - 14.3% - 2 out of 14
Brees - 10.5% - 2 out of 10
Mahomes - 0% - 0 out of 5
So is the difference the guy who didn't really produce any more or any more efficient at some crazy rate? Or is it the guy who had much better defenses actually at a crazy rate comparably?
Disclaimer: I copy/pasted, those numbers were derived during this season, so obviously Mahomes does have the 1 now.
This post was edited on 2/1/24 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 2/1/24 at 11:14 am to GeauxZone90
quote:re: An NBA team needs a QB to win a championship, you taking MJ or Russell?
Who has the most super bowls. There is your answer.
If you're taking Russell, so Russell is your GOAT, right?
Posted on 2/1/24 at 11:15 am to St Augustine
quote:IMO there's virtually zero doubt Brees would have more SB rings than Brady and be considered better than Brady if they swapped teams the moment Brees went to NO.
I always wondered how Brees would do in the peak NE system. Seems like it would be absolutely perfect for his skill set of hitting the TE and lots of quick hitters requiring accuracy.
That doesn't mean Brees is or would have been any better. He just would have done more winning.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 11:26 am to shel311
quote:
He really only won more SBs than the other guys due to defense.
The ringz crowd isn't going to like this post.
Idk why everyone is so obsessed with comparing QB's the way they compare NBA players. It's not the same thing.
Brady, Manning, and Brees were comparable players. Brady had a far superior defense for the majority of his career so he won more.
I'm as big of a Brees homer as there is but I'd honestly take prime Rodgers over any of them.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 11:37 am to MountainDewGF
Brady.
Next question.
Next question.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 12:04 pm to MountainDewGF
I'm the biggest TB12 fanboi on this site, and the answer is definitely Patrick Mahomes.
This post was edited on 2/1/24 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 2/1/24 at 12:12 pm to GeauxZone90
quote:
Who has the most super bowls. There is your answer.
Brady’s path to the playoffs and SB was easier than Brees
Brady benefited from a franchise with great defense and being in the AFC Least.
The NFL castrated the Saints for having a great defense.
Prime Brees had years where every team in our division got to the Super Bowl.
This post was edited on 2/1/24 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 2/1/24 at 12:13 pm to Cliff Booth
quote:Yea, if we're solely going by best QB for a sustained peak, my order would start with Mahomes 1 and Rodgers 2, very much ahead of Brady/Manning/Brees.
I'm as big of a Brees homer as there is but I'd honestly take prime Rodgers over any of them.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 12:14 pm to SirWinston
quote:Mahomes is better than Brees/Brady/Manning but he is NOT the answer to the OP's question, factually speaking
I'm the biggest TB12 fanboi on this site, and the answer is definitely Patrick Mahomes.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 12:18 pm to MountainDewGF
Give me Prime Manning. Either of the 3 would probably get it done, but I like Manning the most
Posted on 2/1/24 at 12:48 pm to MountainDewGF
What defense/coach/special teams do I get?
Because that matters despite what the ring counting Brady fans would have you believe
Because that matters despite what the ring counting Brady fans would have you believe
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