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re: American High Schooler runs 3:34 1500 meters=3:51 mile
Posted on 6/1/21 at 4:32 pm to Open Your Eyes
Posted on 6/1/21 at 4:32 pm to Open Your Eyes
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Bromell is the favorite for the 100 now with the form he’s shown up to this point and coleman out.
Adjusting for wind, Isiah Young's marks from the past month or so at 100m are a bit better than Bromell's. Simbine from South Africa also bears watching. His 9.99 into a -3.0 wind is the best result so far this year.
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Posted on 6/1/21 at 6:03 pm to Zappas Stache
Some of these climbing kids are crazy good athletes. The stamina you need to climb long 5.14+ routes is no joke. My climbing partner is 26 and was on Team USA and his standing heart rate is 32 beats per minute. The doctor at his physical for insurance made him go to a specialist and he was healthy, turns out he's just a freak.
Posted on 6/1/21 at 6:12 pm to barry
Is there any money in going pro? I mean in the US we've stopped caring about Track and Field athletes except for the Olympics. I know in Europe Athletics is more popular but let's say he breaks the world record. Is there any LeBron or Lionel Messi money in that?
This post was edited on 6/1/21 at 6:13 pm
Posted on 6/1/21 at 6:37 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
The best American runners make a very good living. Galen Rupp makes about 500K a year I believe and while he’s very good, he isn’t a world champ or record holder. He also has damn near zero charisma.
The Let’s Run surveys of agents showed that a most of the elite or near-elite runners make six figure salaries, even if that is more on the 100-150K end of things
Obviously much worse for anyone in the field events unless they are incredible (multiple global titles).
The Let’s Run surveys of agents showed that a most of the elite or near-elite runners make six figure salaries, even if that is more on the 100-150K end of things
Obviously much worse for anyone in the field events unless they are incredible (multiple global titles).
Posted on 6/1/21 at 6:41 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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but let's say he breaks the world record. Is there any LeBron or Lionel Messi money in that?
No, there is not much money in T&F even in Europe. If he went pro tomorrow, he may get $200-300k in sponsorship from a shoe company and be able to make another $100k if he did well in Diamond League meets.If he broke the world record in the 1500 or mile there would be an incentive clause in his shoe contract that may be worth $200k or maybe a little more. From the money he makes he would have to pay his agent, coach, nutritionists, etc. and a lot of his travel expenses. Now as an American, if he broke the mile record then he may get some other endorsement deals from mainstream companies and be able to make a chunk off that.
Posted on 6/1/21 at 6:46 pm to Zappas Stache
Imagine how many medals, world records, and endorsements he would get if he felt like and identified as a woman!
Posted on 6/1/21 at 6:47 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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Is there any money in going pro?
Alan Webb, who was worse than Kessler, went pro after his disappointing freshman year in 2002 and got a 6yr 1.5M contract plus a deal from Nike to pay for his college as well.
Posted on 6/1/21 at 7:00 pm to tigercross
That was at a strange time for contracts, right? I’m sure Xavier Carter didn’t see much of the money because his times fell off big time, but didn’t Adidas give him 6 years/12 million (non-guaranteed)?
Posted on 6/1/21 at 7:28 pm to tigercross
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Alan Webb, who was worse than Kessler, went pro after his disappointing freshman year in 2002 and got a 6yr 1.5M contract plus a deal from Nike to pay for his college as well.
Well, that was 6 years for a total of 1.5 mil.
And Xavier Carter signed with Nike but it was estimated at 750k per year back then. With incentives such as setting world records and winning gold medals it may have potentially been worth a few million.
Webb was the first HS runner under 4 minutes in a long time so there was a lot of excitement around him. Plus US distance running was pretty weak so Nike was happy to have an American that could possibly run with the big boys. Now, there is usually a HSchooler under 4 minutes every year and the US has some good distance runners.
This post was edited on 6/1/21 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 6/1/21 at 8:40 pm to Zappas Stache
This post was edited on 6/1/21 at 8:41 pm
Posted on 6/1/21 at 8:47 pm to Zappas Stache
Arky lock
Posted on 6/1/21 at 8:55 pm to Zappas Stache
Insane. That's a better than average pace on a road bike.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 12:47 am to ClampClampington
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Insane. That's a better than average pace on a road bike.
From a simply intellectual POV 15mph over a mile doesn't seem very fast when you consider elite marathoners run close to a 13mph average.
BTW 15 mph on a road bike is casual territory. Even my ancient arse (54) can average 23-24 mph solo for an hour on moderately flat roads and I am far from elite even for my age. These days that level of fitness is just enough to be hanging in the lead group at the end of a Cat 5 crit. Out at the Cat1/Pro level you gotta be above 30 average to stay near the lead pack.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 1:07 am to Obtuse1
quote:shut the frick up
From a simply intellectual POV 15mph over a mile doesn't seem very fast when you consider elite marathoners run close to a 13mph average.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 1:29 am to Pedro
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shut the frick up
Seriously think about it. Elite runners run the 400m @ ~20 mph. Elite #s for the mile (1609 meters) are ~15 mph. The drop-off from the mile to 26.2 miles is only ~2 mph.
If you were given the 400 and marathon numbers for some unknown animal I think most people would expect the mile to be faster. The lack of linearity is crazy.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 2:12 am to Zappas Stache
American phenoms tend to get eaten up at the Olympics in distance with rare exceptions.
Its a whole other level with tactics. Past sprinting and the 400, the rest of track is like Soccer to us. Americans went over 100 years between winning the Mile...with the slowest time In 75 years...We finally won a 1500 again, with basically a slightly better 1932 time.
We always get excited about American H.S. phenoms but beyond sprints and the 400, they end up getting destroyed by the Euros and Africans.
Its a whole other level with tactics. Past sprinting and the 400, the rest of track is like Soccer to us. Americans went over 100 years between winning the Mile...with the slowest time In 75 years...We finally won a 1500 again, with basically a slightly better 1932 time.
We always get excited about American H.S. phenoms but beyond sprints and the 400, they end up getting destroyed by the Euros and Africans.
This post was edited on 6/2/21 at 2:15 am
Posted on 6/2/21 at 9:28 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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Is there any money in going pro? I
I can tell you there is more money in T&F than in rock climbing
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:20 am to Zappas Stache
Holding out for my boy Yared Nugese from ND to see how he does going forward in the 1500.
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 7:27 pm to BluegrassBelle
The 1500 final should be an insane race. The field is pretty deep for the semis as long as the right people move on
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