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Am I the only person who likes the 35 second shot clock in college hoops
Posted on 1/30/15 at 9:08 am
Posted on 1/30/15 at 9:08 am
I like the 35 second shot clock for these reasons:
-Competitive Balance, with a 24 second shot clock there would not be as much parody, the deeper/more athletic teams like Kentucky would be even more dominant. A 35 second shot clock allows less gifted teams to control the tempo of the game similar to how wishbone offenses do the same in football. The more possessions in a game, the more favored the deeper/more talented team is.
-It emphasizes defense, a 24 second clock would favor transition teams and faster paced offenses. A 35 second shot clock, playing defense is more important. Virginia and Wisconsin are 2 teams whose entire identity is based on the 35 second shot clock and would not be able to do what they do with a 24 second one.
-It allows for more offensive creativity, the Princeton offense would not exist, and unique yet highly entertaining to watch motion offenses like Stew Morrill's(he is retiring after this season, so sad) at Utah State would die. A 24 second shot clock just encourages simple offenses and one on one matchups, as well as chucking; instead of 5 guys working together to create an open look.
-Competitive Balance, with a 24 second shot clock there would not be as much parody, the deeper/more athletic teams like Kentucky would be even more dominant. A 35 second shot clock allows less gifted teams to control the tempo of the game similar to how wishbone offenses do the same in football. The more possessions in a game, the more favored the deeper/more talented team is.
-It emphasizes defense, a 24 second clock would favor transition teams and faster paced offenses. A 35 second shot clock, playing defense is more important. Virginia and Wisconsin are 2 teams whose entire identity is based on the 35 second shot clock and would not be able to do what they do with a 24 second one.
-It allows for more offensive creativity, the Princeton offense would not exist, and unique yet highly entertaining to watch motion offenses like Stew Morrill's(he is retiring after this season, so sad) at Utah State would die. A 24 second shot clock just encourages simple offenses and one on one matchups, as well as chucking; instead of 5 guys working together to create an open look.
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Posted on 1/30/15 at 9:10 am to goldennugget
quote:This is the main reason why the college product is shite. It is almost unwatchable when your team isnt playing. People want to see the gifted athletes make plays. We dont watch to see hard worker Johnny hold the ball for 28 seconds, then dribble a little and shoot
35 second shot clock allows less gifted teams to control the tempo
Posted on 1/30/15 at 9:10 am to goldennugget
Youre correct, for once
Posted on 1/30/15 at 9:11 am to Carson123987
I personally wish they had a 10 second clock.
more half court shots....
more half court shots....
Posted on 1/30/15 at 9:11 am to goldennugget
I've always thought 35 was too long.
For the college game, 24 isn't long enough, I'd like to see a 30 second clock.
For the college game, 24 isn't long enough, I'd like to see a 30 second clock.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 9:11 am to goldennugget
have they added this to HS basketball yet?
I used to hate it when teams would just hold the ball for minutes at a time in HS
our idiot coach would tell us to just let them too
I used to hate it when teams would just hold the ball for minutes at a time in HS
our idiot coach would tell us to just let them too
Posted on 1/30/15 at 9:12 am to goldennugget
I don't like the 35 second clock. Too much time.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 9:15 am to goldennugget
I'd prefer a 30 second shot clock. 35 just takes so much drama out of the game late. 8-9 point leads (with 5 minutes left or so) feel almost insurmountable at times in a 40 minute game.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 9:15 am to lsupride87
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This is the main reason why the college product is shite. It is almost unwatchable when your team isnt playing. People want to see the gifted athletes make plays. We dont watch to see hard worker Johnny hold the ball for 28 seconds, then dribble a little and shoot
That's not what teams like Princeton or Utah State do, though. Or even swing offenses like Wisconsin or Virginia. Good slow tempo offenses move the ball around and all 5 players are in constant motion.
I have no connection or relation to Utah State but one year(around 2003-ish?) I watched one of their NCAA tournament games against the Kansas team that lost to Syracuse in the final that year. They were huge underdogs but their coach is an offensive genius and they only lost by 3. Their offensive philosphy was a total thing of beauty and I became a bandwagon Utah State fan after that. Shame their coach is retiring after this year.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 9:16 am to Salmon
quote:
have they added this to HS basketball yet?
I used to hate it when teams would just hold the ball for minutes at a time in HS
our idiot coach would tell us to just let them too
This is why HS basketball is unwatchable... team gets a 6 point lead in the 4th quarter and it becomes a game of keepaway
Posted on 1/30/15 at 9:19 am to CecilShortsHisPants
quote:
I've always thought 35 was too long.
For the college game, 24 isn't long enough, I'd like to see a 30 second clock.
Definitely this. It's too long for sure. It doesn't have to be 24 like the NBA, but 35 is way yoo much IMO. 30 seems like a nice compromise, and you could still have plenty of time to run offenses.
Personally, I wouldn't mind it slightly shorter than 30 even (maybe 28ish).
Posted on 1/30/15 at 9:23 am to CocomoLSU
im a 30 advocate, myself
Posted on 1/30/15 at 9:26 am to goldennugget
30 would be ideal....
Posted on 1/30/15 at 9:28 am to goldennugget
quote:
-Competitive Balance, with a 24 second shot clock there would not be as much parody, the deeper/more athletic teams like Kentucky would be even more dominant. A 35 second shot clock allows less gifted teams to control the tempo of the game similar to how wishbone offenses do the same in football. The more possessions in a game, the more favored the deeper/more talented team is.
A 24 second shot clock makes the end of games more exciting. It is easier for a team to make a comeback, down 10 points, with 4 minutes to go, with a 24 second shot clock, than a 35 second shot clock.
quote:
-It emphasizes defense, a 24 second clock would favor transition teams and faster paced offenses. A 35 second shot clock, playing defense is more important. Virginia and Wisconsin are 2 teams whose entire identity is based on the 35 second shot clock and would not be able to do what they do with a 24 second one.
I love defense, but I am in the minority. People want to see scoring. I also love transition/fast paced basketball. As do most people. I have no desire to watch Pablo Prigioni dribble the ball for 31 seconds looking for someone to pass it to.
quote:
-It allows for more offensive creativity, the Princeton offense would not exist, and unique yet highly entertaining to watch motion offenses like Stew Morrill's(he is retiring after this season, so sad) at Utah State would die. A 24 second shot clock just encourages simple offenses and one on one matchups, as well as chucking; instead of 5 guys working together to create an open look.
Meh.
If you can't get a decent shot off in 24 seconds, you don't deserve any points on that possession, IMO
This post was edited on 1/30/15 at 10:05 am
Posted on 1/30/15 at 9:32 am to goldennugget
it sucks arse and needs to be dropped down to at least 30.
it should really be 24 though since that's what all the pro leagues have.
I wouldnt be opposed to the reset to 14 seconds if you get an offensive rebound that they started in Europe either.
it should really be 24 though since that's what all the pro leagues have.
I wouldnt be opposed to the reset to 14 seconds if you get an offensive rebound that they started in Europe either.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 9:36 am to goldennugget
NCAA women use a 30-second shot clock. No reason for the men to use a 35-second shot clock.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 9:37 am to goldennugget
So you want to see less talented teams win by literally stopping play so the more talented team doesn't have as many chances to score? Gross
College basketball is horrible. The long shot clock is a reason why.
College basketball is horrible. The long shot clock is a reason why.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 9:38 am to goldennugget
Reduce the shot clock to 30 seconds and call the fouls as the rule changes stipulated and college basketball would instantly become a better product.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 9:39 am to Dr RC
quote:
I wouldnt be opposed to the reset to 14 seconds if you get an offensive rebound that they started in Europe either.
Interesting. I have never heard of this before now.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 9:39 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:
NCAA women use a 30-second shot clock. No reason for the men to use a 35-second shot clock.
I didn't even know this. Good point.
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