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Posted on 10/1/17 at 6:36 pm to Adam Banks
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In fact they might be AL East champions if they put a replacement player there for 55 games.
And what if they put in a replacement player for the first 90 games?
Your argument is terrible.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 6:37 pm to ZZTIGERS
I hate being the last post....
My vote, Votto & Trout. Who will win? Stanton & Judge.
Also, I wouldn't be opposed to JD Martinez being in the NL MVP race.
My vote, Votto & Trout. Who will win? Stanton & Judge.
Also, I wouldn't be opposed to JD Martinez being in the NL MVP race.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 6:39 pm to nba_jo
Jose Ramirez (83 RBI, not 56) and Stanton
Posted on 10/1/17 at 6:40 pm to BayouBengals03
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And what if they put in a replacement player for the first 90 games?
the mvp award is for the entire 2017 season. not 2/3s of the 2017 season. Judge was absolutely awful for a large portion of the season. Its why I wouldnt pick Trout who was injured for a large portion of the season.
ETA I think I see the confusion in my comment regarding having a replacement player . I meant in reference to having one in that 55 game stretch ie he got hurt and missed that portion of the season. They have a sub in there and they win the AL East
This post was edited on 10/1/17 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 10/1/17 at 6:41 pm to Klendathu
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Jose Ramirez (83 RBI, not 56) and Stanton
Not sure how I missed that one.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 6:45 pm to nba_jo
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Judge is a 5 tool guy
Altuve would probably be considered more of a 5 tool guy. More stolen bases, hitting for higher average.
Think Altuve should win it. Plays at a more valuable position. He was the constant on the Astros when Springer and Correa were out and not playing well.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 6:47 pm to Adam Banks
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the mvp award is for the entire 2017 season.
Right. You are proving my point.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 6:48 pm to Adam Banks
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I think I see the confusion in my comment regarding having a replacement player . I meant in reference to having one in that 55 game stretch ie he got hurt and missed that portion of the season. They have a sub in there and they win the AL East
Oh, I know what you meant. And it's stupid.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 6:53 pm to BayouBengals03
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Oh, I know what you meant. And it's stupid.
I mean its not really debatable that the yankees would have been better with Judge unable to enter the lineup for that 55 game stretch. He was hitting sub 200 with a massive amount of Ks and minimal HRs. If your team would be better with a sub for 1/3 of the season IMO you shouldnt win the MVP.
ETA I should pull up some of your posts from those games
This post was edited on 10/1/17 at 6:54 pm
Posted on 10/1/17 at 6:59 pm to Adam Banks
He sucked but he was still getting on base at a decent clip. It was basically walk, strikeout, or pop out.
What if your team would be substantially worse without you for 2/3 of the season? What would Judge's WAR be without those 50 games? Probably still right around 7 or 8? I'm not saying you just get to take the bad games out, because that's stupid. You can't. However, he was so, so, so valuable for 2/3 of the season.
It's a 162-game season. You can take your snapshots of the season and find places where a guy was awesome and bad, but it's the entire photo album that counts.
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If your team would be better with a sub for 1/3 of the season IMO you shouldnt win the MVP.
What if your team would be substantially worse without you for 2/3 of the season? What would Judge's WAR be without those 50 games? Probably still right around 7 or 8? I'm not saying you just get to take the bad games out, because that's stupid. You can't. However, he was so, so, so valuable for 2/3 of the season.
It's a 162-game season. You can take your snapshots of the season and find places where a guy was awesome and bad, but it's the entire photo album that counts.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 7:02 pm to BayouBengals03
For me it's just that it was such a large portion of the season that the other 2/3 doesn't outweigh it particularly with another viable contender fantastic season fantastic player ROY for sure. If it was a 20 game stretch for sure I'd give it to him
ETA and I'm obviously biased to the other candidate
ETA and I'm obviously biased to the other candidate
This post was edited on 10/1/17 at 7:04 pm
Posted on 10/1/17 at 7:12 pm to nba_jo
Altuve Stanton
Will probably be Judge and Stanton.
Will probably be Judge and Stanton.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 7:28 pm to SECFan1995
Judge - 8.2 fWAR
Altuve - 7.5 fWAR
Judge - 172 wRC+
Altuve - 160 wRC+
Judge - .430 wOBA
Altuve - .406 wOBA
Judge - .284 AVG
Altuve - .347 AVG
Judge - .422 OBP
Altuve - .411 OBP
Judge - .627 SLG
Altuve - .549 SLG
Judge - 1.049 OPS
Altuve - .961 OPS
Judge - 52 HR
Altuve - 24 HR
Judge - 114 RBI
Altuve - 81 RBI
Judge - 128 R
Altuve -112 R
Judge - 127 BB
Altuve - 58 BB
Judge - 9 SB
Altuve - 32 SB
Don’t understand how people think Altuve deserves it over Judge. Judge’s stats are better and it really isn’t close.
Altuve - 7.5 fWAR
Judge - 172 wRC+
Altuve - 160 wRC+
Judge - .430 wOBA
Altuve - .406 wOBA
Judge - .284 AVG
Altuve - .347 AVG
Judge - .422 OBP
Altuve - .411 OBP
Judge - .627 SLG
Altuve - .549 SLG
Judge - 1.049 OPS
Altuve - .961 OPS
Judge - 52 HR
Altuve - 24 HR
Judge - 114 RBI
Altuve - 81 RBI
Judge - 128 R
Altuve -112 R
Judge - 127 BB
Altuve - 58 BB
Judge - 9 SB
Altuve - 32 SB
Don’t understand how people think Altuve deserves it over Judge. Judge’s stats are better and it really isn’t close.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 8:04 pm to 1ranter1
You forgot 204 K’s For Judge. Over 1/3rd of his ABs resulted in a strikeout.
According to the MLB Altuve has a WAR of 8.4 while Judge is at 7.98.
According to the MLB Altuve has a WAR of 8.4 while Judge is at 7.98.
This post was edited on 10/1/17 at 8:08 pm
Posted on 10/1/17 at 8:07 pm to 1ranter1
who do you think should win the nl mvp?
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