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re: Aaron Murray made a great point about the power of narrative re: FSU/Bama
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:10 am to Lester Earl
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:10 am to Lester Earl
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Lester Earl
Shut the frick up
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:11 am to BhamDore
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I miss the old days when you could obliterate a pussy QB like Murray without consequence.
Nah, that’s what’s called a cheap shot. No better than a sucker punch. But you’ve been defending Alabama all throughout this board so that’s not shocking.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:15 am to Epic Cajun
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:15 am to TheWalrus
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It’s obvious everyone at ESPN was given their marching orders to push in Bama.
I read an article on-line maybe on the ESPN website where the commentator said that unless FSU managed to "blow-out" Florida that their chances of making the 4 team playoff were diminished to the point of being unrealistic.
FSU didn't blow out Florida or Louisville, so, the commentator's prediction was spot-on, once Bama beat GA.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:18 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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That's going to happen when you have four of the top five defenses in the country in the conference
You tend to have really highly rated defenses when you play crappy offenses every week.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:21 am to LSUgrad88
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You tend to have really highly rated defenses when you play crappy offenses every week.
You tend to have low rated offenses when you play elite defenses every week.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:21 am to bamameister
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Cool story. Now explain to everyone how LSU managed to make the BCS in 2007 with 2 losses?
Not sure how this is even remotely relevant since there were ZERO undefeated teams that year. One loss West Virginia goes that year instead of LSU except they lost to 25 point underdog Pittsburgh the last week of the season.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:23 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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You tend to have low rated offenses when you play elite defenses every week.
Except I can go look at Iowa and Nebraska and Illinois and Wisconsin and look at what they put up out of conference and it wasn’t a lot of points. They were terrible offensive football teams.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:24 am to Champagne
Murray also made the point that it wasn’t like Travis was 2010 Cam Newton. And Hester said he talked to the head of the Senior Bowl and he said Travis wasn’t even getting an invite there. Was going to be a 6th or 7th rounder most likely.
Florida State’s got Sunday dudes all over the field. 3 better WRs than Michigan’s best. Got a better RB too. And Michigan doesn’t have a Verse out there murdering motherfrickers. With a month to prepare, their backup QB can’t hand the ball off as good as McCarthy? Why don’t they get the opportunity to win by controlling the ball and playing smothering defense?
Florida State’s got Sunday dudes all over the field. 3 better WRs than Michigan’s best. Got a better RB too. And Michigan doesn’t have a Verse out there murdering motherfrickers. With a month to prepare, their backup QB can’t hand the ball off as good as McCarthy? Why don’t they get the opportunity to win by controlling the ball and playing smothering defense?
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:25 am to Epic Cajun
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Iowa has 29 players in the NFL currently, FSU has 16
Iowa never had Deion Sanders though. It’s one thing to put guys in the NFL, but it’s another to put guys that casual fans can name
This post was edited on 12/6/23 at 10:39 am
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:26 am to LSUgrad88
So what.
The best offense in the country put up 24 points OOC. It happens.
The best offense in the country put up 24 points OOC. It happens.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:27 am to LSUgrad88
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Not sure how this is even remotely relevant since there were ZERO undefeated teams that year. One loss West Virginia goes that year instead of LSU except they lost to 25 point underdog Pittsburgh the last week of the season.
Hawaii was undefeated.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:36 am to Lester Earl
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Sorry, your post is very hard to comprehend
No it isn’t
It’s a great post and makes a great point
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:36 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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That's going to happen when you have four of the top five defenses in the country in the conference.
That gets inflated when you get to play teams like Iowa. I made some good money this season blindly betting the under on that trainwreck.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:36 am to Hot Carl
It was obvious during the ACC game that Tess would not stop toting the water for Bama. It was so obvious, this whole thing should make every fan of every team and cfb discusted.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:39 am to GoGators1995
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Hawaii was undefeated.
Stop
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:41 am to Hot Carl
The undefeated team that should have been bounced out was Michigan.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:45 am to Champagne
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Are we still talking about college football or the subjective thoughts of imperfect human nature? I'll stand by.
They are one and the same thing.
Not the other 90% of the playoff's existence. The first 9 years they were completely objective and selected based on resume only. Not the subjective "eye test" or who would hypothetically beat who. This year they did the exact opposite.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:50 am to WG_Dawg
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Not the other 90% of the playoff's existence. The first 9 years they were completely objective and selected based on resume only. Not the subjective "eye test" or who would hypothetically beat who. This year they did the exact opposite.
Seems to me that the eye test subjectivity has always been there as a last resort, if they must use it.
That's been my point all along - that for over 100 years determining the CFB mythical Champion has always used factors that are heavily subjective. That is my premise.
If I'm wrong about that, I should delete all of my posts.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 10:50 am to Hot Carl
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Said Klatt and the FOX PBP guy were praising Michigan (and Iowa) for how hard-fought and awesome the defensive performances were, like both teams were the ‘85 Bears. While the guys doing the Florida State/Louisville game were basically dogging FSU the whole game and wondering if they were doing enough to make the top 4. Said the vibe from the respective booths was almost opposite for relatively similar games.
Murray is sort of right in his assessment.
The B1G CG wasn't much of a contest, and Gus Johnson gets overly excited about everything anyway, so I think he and Klatt were doing what they could to talk up a snoozer.
I didn't think Tess and Palmer really dogged FSU so much, but it was almost like they already knew what was coming if they didn't start putting Louisville away sooner.
Towards the end of the game, Palmer even wanted FSU to go for "style points" and score a TD instead of settling for a FG, as if it might've still saved them from getting screwed by the committee.
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