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re: 40 percent of shots taken in the NBA are 3’s.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 11:47 am to TigerAndBadger
Posted on 4/7/21 at 11:47 am to TigerAndBadger
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Better long distance shooters I'll give, but certainly not more skilled. Quite the opposite. You can be trash at everything else, but if you shoot 3's, you can make the NBA.
I too long for the days of skilled players like Luc Longley just standing in the lane.
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 11:50 am to slackster
This is the point of NBA discussions where people who just don’t like the NBA or the sport of basketball tell everyone what they would do to fix the sport, even though no matter what they would still never watch it 
“You know what would make this sport I don’t like better? If they catered it to my specific tastes. Yeah. That’s what they need”
“You know what would make this sport I don’t like better? If they catered it to my specific tastes. Yeah. That’s what they need”
Posted on 4/7/21 at 11:51 am to wildtigercat93
quote:A balanced approach across the board. You're looking at it from a strategy stand point. No one is arguing the soundness of the analytics. I'm referring the end product, what we the fans watch and pay to see. I don't want to see all back to the basket bigs or all iso ball or all 3 pts. Mix it up. It's just not compelling to watch ruthless efficiency. Don't blame teams for going to it, and you can't blame me for having zero interest in watching it. It's awful.
So if you don’t like iso and you don’t like ball movement, what do you like?
Posted on 4/7/21 at 11:56 am to Madking
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The 3 explosion was a byproduct of the rules changes not their intent. The no touch rules were put in to make it easier for LeBron and other future undeveloped wings and forwards. The NBA had to find a way around guys having to learn the game so they just eliminated perimeter defense. That way you don’t need a point guard and you don’t need to develop much. Anybody can just take the ball and go.
I love this spin. Let’s ignore the fact that the rule had been neutered in 1994 anyway, and let’s also ignore that hand checking required virtually no skill on the defensive end. You just stuck to your man and put a hand on him.
Lastly, let’s ignore the fact that wings like Jordan would often just clear out the floor and drive one on one without fear because of illegal defense rules. This idea that offensive wings couldn’t survive under the old rules is ridiculous.
This post was edited on 4/7/21 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 4/7/21 at 11:58 am to Salmon
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its crazy that I can envision a scenario where they go completely backwards and remove the 3 point line
They should, but they won’t. I don’t watch the NBA anymore, even before all the SJW stuff. Just not an entertaining product to watch.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:44 pm to Epic Cajun
quote:I thought that from the 70s until the mid 90s, guys were much better at shooting from midrange. When people said the NBA lost their fundamentals, that’s what they meant.
It's just basic math, it's not 1.5x harder to make a 3 point shot than it is to make a mid-range 2 point shot for the vast majority of basketball players.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:48 pm to slackster
Yes, that take is horrible. The rule changes made it harder for unskilled wings and forwards, not easier. Today, if you are a wing and don't have great range, good handles, a one-on-one game, and the ability to finish at the rim, you only have one role, the so-called 3 and D. There are many SFs that would be all-stars twenty years ago that are role/end of bench guys now.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:48 pm to sabes que
Definitely time to move it back.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:49 pm to sabes que
And somehow Gonzaga wanted to upend that trend in the NCAA Championship.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:51 pm to chalmetteowl
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I thought that from the 70s until the mid 90s, guys were much better at shooting from midrange. When people said the NBA lost their fundamentals, that’s what they meant.
The "fundamental" shooting skill is better than ever. Across the board everyone shoots better today than years ago, even in the midrange. They just shoot fewer mid-range shots now.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:57 pm to Madking
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The 3 explosion was a byproduct of the rules changes not their intent. The no touch rules were put in to make it easier for LeBron and other future undeveloped wings and forwards. The NBA had to find a way around guys having to learn the game so they just eliminated perimeter defense. That way you don’t need a point guard and you don’t need to develop much. Anybody can just take the ball and go.
Some right, but a lot wrong. Also, by far point guards have been the primary beneficiary of the rule changes. Right now the NBA has the best point guard talent its ever had. The Dame, Curry, Kyrie, Young, Murrays of the NBA would all be good in any era, but now those guys are almost unstoppable when on.
In the old days those guys would be hand-checked at mid-court and (legally) knocked back 5 feet coming of every screen. All you have to do is look at the punishment AI took in his prime to see the difference.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 1:01 pm to slackster
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I too long for the days of skilled players like Luc Longley just standing in the lane.
There will always be a spot for you if you are over 7'. Shotblocking/rebounding. Unskilled guys like Tacko Fall still make the League
Posted on 4/7/21 at 3:55 pm to sabes que
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40 percent of shots taken in the NBA are 3’s.
Just make them 2.5's.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 5:30 pm to wildtigercat93
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So if you don’t like iso and you don’t like ball movement, what do you like?
Spacing =\= ball movement.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 5:30 pm to NOLALGD
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Right now the NBA has the best point guard talent its ever had
This is false because of
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by far point guards have been the primary beneficiary of the rule changes.
This
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:35 am to wildtigercat93
I want 80s Bad Boys style of play not this nonsense.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 4:46 am to JabarkusRussell
quote:You think you do, but you'll be bored as hell of that after a week.
I want 80s Bad Boys style of play not this nonsense.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 7:15 am to NOLALGD
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Today, if you are a wing and don't have great range, good handles, a one-on-one game, and the ability to finish at the rim, you only have one role, the so-called 3 and D.
just look at big men
they're much higher skilled in terms of shooting and passing than back in the day. it's incredible what kind of skilled freakshows are populating the NBA currently. just their general awareness of being a playmaker is utterly insane compared to even 10 years ago
Posted on 4/8/21 at 7:21 am to SlowFlowPro
When I was growing up, many kids played a lot of sports. Now it seems like more and more are focusing on and specializing in just 1 which naturally leads to the player pool becoming more skilled over time. I think that is what is happening in basketball. A lot of these guys grew up playing 500 aau games a year since the age of 5.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 7:29 am to SlowFlowPro
Spread offenses have hurt the traditional big man and changed the game. So has the NBA free-throw lane getting widen. Again, another rule that pulls big guys from underneath the basket. The 3-second defensive rule with at least a foot in the lane that gives offenses a technical shot is also a deterrent to not camp in the middle.
I would have to say that the NBA has done a masterful job at creating the European basketball we have today. How long before college basketball follows the same recipe to open the court?
I would have to say that the NBA has done a masterful job at creating the European basketball we have today. How long before college basketball follows the same recipe to open the court?
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