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re: 40 percent of shots taken in the NBA are 3’s.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 7:53 pm to sabes que
Posted on 4/6/21 at 7:53 pm to sabes que
The 3 explosion was a byproduct of the rules changes not their intent. The no touch rules were put in to make it easier for LeBron and other future undeveloped wings and forwards. The NBA had to find a way around guys having to learn the game so they just eliminated perimeter defense. That way you don’t need a point guard and you don’t need to develop much. Anybody can just take the ball and go.
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 8:11 pm
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Posted on 4/6/21 at 8:09 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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Baylor scorched Gonzaga with the mid range to long 2.
Baylor made about a dozen 3s. I assume that’s pretty close to the nba average.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:05 pm to C
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Baylor made about a dozen 3s. I assume that’s pretty close to the nba average.
Not really
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:27 pm to sabes que
quote:the NBA tried a shorter three point line around that time but then changed it back after two or three years
Also from 94 to 95 the 3PA per game went up from 9.9 to over 15. Anyone know why such a sizable increase(50 percent) in one season?
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:31 pm to chalmetteowl
Great info. Appreciate it
Posted on 4/6/21 at 10:32 pm to TexasTiger08
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This is debatable. Balance and contrasting styles contribute to excitement also.
This is where I'm at.
I'm a huge NBA fan, but it's gotten irritating watching nearly every team follow the same formula. It feels like every player who can shoot 30% or better has been given the green light. Boring to watch.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 10:49 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Boring to me too. I don’t watch much beyond the Spurs. At least, that’s been the case this season and last. I’ll catch some highlights and continue being a hater when it suits me 
, but for the most part it’s 48 minutes of the same thing.
, but for the most part it’s 48 minutes of the same thing. 
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:40 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Baylor scorched Gonzaga with the mid range to long 2. And once they established they could make them, they couldn’t just say back and play rim protect.
Imagine how good Baylor will be when they realize that their decreased shot percentage from three feet further back is more than offset by being awarded 50% more points for making it than if they had made it from a long two, as the nba has.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:40 am to wildtigercat93
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In hindsight it’s kind of shocking it took everyone this long to figure that out
I’m not sure it’s that they couldn’t figure it out, but rather that for most of the NBA’s history there just weren’t enough good shooters to justify the strategy. There was a time not that long ago when Reggie Miller was considered by many to be the greatest volume three point shooter in history. There at least 15 players active RIGHT NOW who are statistically superior volume three point shooters than Miller was. Half the teams in the NBA have a guy of that caliber today. And the range of the average three point shooter has extended quite a bit. It’s not even surprising anymore to see guys hitting threes near the logo. Steph, Porzingis, Dame, etc. hit 15-20 of those a year at least.
There are just a lot more good three point shooters now, and the great ones of today have more range than at any time in history.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:46 am to JohnnyKilroy
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it's gotten irritating watching nearly every team follow the same formula.
Then you’ll love the 2020-2021 Pelicans (and hate them for a ton of other reasons).
If you shoot 50% from long twos over 200 shots (roughly 2.5 per game), you’d only need to hit 33.5% of the same shot but three or so feet further back to have a better point per shot when comparing the two. There a reason that everyone has adopted the same style. It’s inefficient not to.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:49 am to Madking
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The 3 explosion was a byproduct of the rules changes not their intent. The no touch rules were put in to make it easier for LeBron and other future undeveloped wings and forwards. The NBA had to find a way around guys having to learn the game so they just eliminated perimeter defense. That way you don’t need a point guard and you don’t need to develop much. Anybody can just take the ball and go.
Perhaps, but that has very little to do with the fact that you’ve got guys in the league today who can hit 28 footers at a 20% clip. No set of rules in NBA history help against that.
Players are just getting much better at shooting from much farther out. They’re also MUCH better at creating their own shots because of the range guys have on their step back jumper today. Guys like Harden, Steph and Luka are routinely stepping back 2-3 feet’s behind the three point line and you just can’t guard that unless you’re prepared to give up a layup line all night.
As a side, next time you’re in the gym try that. The coordination and upper body strength required to pull off a step back 24-25 footer with enough speed and accuracy to make it a meaningful attempt is one of the most under appreciated feats of athleticism in sports.
This post was edited on 4/7/21 at 12:54 am
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:51 am to Roger Klarvin
The fact that there weren’t players who could hit from deep was more a function of teams not wanting their players to shoot from deep nearly as much. Why use valuable time becoming better at something you may rarely use?
Now teams demand that their players learn how to shoot, so they’ve gotten better at it. Different times required different skill sets.
Now teams demand that their players learn how to shoot, so they’ve gotten better at it. Different times required different skill sets.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 2:58 am to sabes que
Lets admit it, NBA became Euro-ball.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 7:34 am to TotesMcGotes
I don’t care about efficiency, I want entertainment. There is zero entertainment in every shot being at the basket or from 3.
NBA stans will say “but it’s math!!” While also saying MLB is boring because everything is a strikeout or home run. Imagine if NFL teams passing attacks were all either screens or 50 yard streaks.
All teams playing the exact same style is queer and commie stuff and I have no interest in that.
NBA stans will say “but it’s math!!” While also saying MLB is boring because everything is a strikeout or home run. Imagine if NFL teams passing attacks were all either screens or 50 yard streaks.
All teams playing the exact same style is queer and commie stuff and I have no interest in that.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 8:33 am to TheeRealCarolina
quote:There are 12 players who shoot >50% from mid-range with any sort of volume (2 attempts per game).
Not really but okay.
ETA: the number of players who shoot >33% from 3 with the same parameters (2 attempts per game), is over 10x that
It's just basic math, it's not 1.5x harder to make a 3 point shot than it is to make a mid-range 2 point shot for the vast majority of basketball players.
This post was edited on 4/7/21 at 8:39 am
Posted on 4/7/21 at 8:38 am to TheeRealCarolina
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don’t care about efficiency, I want entertainment. There is zero entertainment in every shot being at the basket or from 3.
Yikes.
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NBA stans will say “but it’s math!!”
Yeah, stupid numbers that make sense and back up reasoning behind play styles. They always seem to defeat your logic.
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All teams playing the exact same style is queer and commie stuff and I have no interest in that.
They really all don't, but please if its not in your interest you can leave all nba discussions. I promise you won't be missed.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 8:40 am to TheeRealCarolina
quote:Have you ever watched Zion Williamson play basketball?
There’s no diversity in players or play style anymore
Posted on 4/7/21 at 8:43 am to TheeRealCarolina
quote:You're such a fricking hack
Not really
The median number of 3 point shots made per team in the NBA is 12.6 per game.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 9:46 am to wildtigercat93
quote:Exactly when they lost me and my interest. Its evolved into this 3 pt contest and all about efficiency and spacing which isn't any more fun to watch than that iso ball. Add in the politics and the load management, just never going to care about that league again. I do find basketball stats interesting though, as a UK fan its in our blood.
There was a dark period in the early 2000s- 2010 where most teams were just running hero ball offense and it was ghastly
At one point it was basically like making someone a captain as to who got to hold onto the ball for 20 seconds of the shot clock before jacking up a bad shot. Looks fine when Lebron did it against the pistons in 2007, but then you have the other teams doing the same thing but with a guy trying to trick a team into a bad contract by stat padding on a bad team
Posted on 4/7/21 at 9:50 am to UKWildcats
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Its evolved into this 3 pt contest and all about efficiency and spacing which isn't any more fun to watch than that iso ball.
So if you don’t like iso and you don’t like ball movement, what do you like?
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