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re: 2024 NASCAR Season Thread - 2024-25 Offseason

Posted on 5/29/24 at 4:30 pm to
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 4:30 pm to
My money is on Briscoe.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 7:46 pm to
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A lot of conversations or opinions on whether or not Larson should get the wavier.

In my opinion, if they can give a driver that was suspended for intentionally wrecking someone a waiver, then they can give Larson a waiver.

I also don’t like how Logano framed Larson’s actions as putting IndyCar ahead of NASCAR. It’s not that simple. A TON of time, money and resources went in to putting that Indy 500 effort together. All of that was going to be thrown away if he didn’t run the race. People who were counting on Larson would’ve been let down. Larson had every intention of running both races from start to finish. The weather messed that up. I don’t look at it as Larson putting IndyCar ahead of NASCAR. Larson, Jeff Gordon and Rick Hendrick were considering everything that had been put into that effort, including all of the people who had worked to make it happen. How do you just throw all of that away? I think they were trying their best to take care of everyone on both sides of the double.

Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 7:49 pm to
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 7:49 pm to
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 7:52 pm to
I want Joey Logano to sit there and tell me with a straight face he wouldn't jump at the opportunity Larson got, or wouldn't in his dreams like to have his face on the Borg-Warner Trophy.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 8:20 pm to
Joey is way off-base here.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 8:43 pm to
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I want Joey Logano to sit there and tell me with a straight face he wouldn't jump at the opportunity Larson got, or wouldn't in his dreams like to have his face on the Borg-Warner Trophy.

Also, take a look at who is currently 17th in Cup Series points and could possibly benefit from Larson being ineligible for the playoffs.


*hint: it’s Logano.
This post was edited on 5/29/24 at 8:44 pm
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
29994 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 9:02 pm to
Whats different between Hill and Rowdy incidents? Didn’t Rowdy intentionally wreck Stenhouse? I hate double standards and Nascar loves them.

3 intentional wreckers:

Chase: 1 race suspension for wrecking
Hill: Dollars and points lost for wrecking
Rowdy: No fines at all for wrecking

Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 5/30/24 at 8:47 am to
I try not to get too in the weeds on silly season stuff this time of year, but with SHR closing things could get a little crazy so its worth talking about.

What does Chandler Smith do next year? Currently the points leader in Xfinity.

I know Toyota would like to hang on to him, which probably means he would slot in to MTJ's car after 2025, but with so much movement he may end up moving up sooner.

I guess its possible Denny buys a charter and moves over to his own team, and Chandler gets in the 11? Don't know if I would say its remotely likely though. Not sure if Denny and MJ would give Chandler their third car either.
Posted by MikeHoncho47
Member since Aug 2016
1908 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 9:01 am to
Corey Heim likely gets that third 23xi ride. Chandler gets the 19 or Gibbs pulls Nemechek back.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17746 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 10:16 am to
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Whats different between Hill and Rowdy incidents? Didn’t Rowdy intentionally wreck Stenhouse? I hate double standards and Nascar loves them.

While Kyle intentionally wrecked Stenhouse, you said yourself that Ricky could have saved his car if he was a better driver.

Hill put Custer into the wall, then instead of passing him, rode Custer's bumper until he spun out. Hill was also driving like an idiot around Sammy Smith for several laps and flipping him off for no apparent reason other than Smith was racing him hard. Hill even admitted he got too carried away there.

It was definitely different, and Hill has been acting like a petulant child for a while now. He earned this penalty.
Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
9141 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:44 am to
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Ricky could have saved his car if he was a better driver.


This shouldn’t be a consideration at all.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:47 am to
Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
9141 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 12:02 pm to
It’s ballsy to prioritize the Indy 500 without assurances from NASCAR that you’d get a waiver. For that reason I have no sympathy if he’s denied the waiver. I have no problem though on the flip side if he is granted a waiver considering how good him being in the 500 is for NASCAR.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
29994 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 12:08 pm to
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While Kyle intentionally wrecked Stenhouse, you said yourself that Ricky could have saved his car if he was a better driver


What does his ability to save car or not have to do with intentionally wrecking him? Its the intent that matters.

All 3 intentionally wrecked someone and all 3 had different outcomes in punishment.

I like to let them race and handle disputes without nascar in the way - unless it gets to be too many times.

But they rule differently depending on the weather. Those fly by night new fans will laugh at the series.

The series likes to post wrecks and scuffles yet rules they shouldn’t. But even then they rule differently for the same things. Just like Hamlin starting early. Others have had drive thru’s for even minor moving out of line before start line. Yet data and eyeballs clearly show Hamlin started early.

Just another example of how bad Nascar is regarding rules
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
29994 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 12:11 pm to
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Regarding Larson's waiver:


Lol. Its all a dog and pony show. His waiver was secretly approved before he even agreed to Indy race. This is all fluff to make it seem like a hard decision for the press and newer fans. Us old timers know its approved but just not announced.

“All the way to the top”. Every decision is from the top so that makes no sense. Nascar is private and the top is who runs the sport.

I laugh at those worry warts
This post was edited on 5/30/24 at 12:13 pm
Posted by broadhead
Member since Oct 2014
2562 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 1:38 pm to
Don't put any weight from anything from couch racer. That fat gap tooth spotter runs that and thinks he knows what is going on.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 4:06 pm to
Yeah I didn't know how credible they were and it seems.like not very.

There is no way they(Hendrick) would have done this if they hadn't been guaranteed a waiver.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 4:09 pm to
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