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re: 2024 Formula 1 season Thread

Posted on 9/2/24 at 12:53 pm to
Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 9/2/24 at 12:53 pm to
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The Max and RB hate is dumb.

Disagree.
Posted by North Dallas Tiger
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Posted on 9/2/24 at 12:58 pm to
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The Max and RB hate is dumb.
All the respect for VER.

No hate for RBR but I'm happy to see some parity back at the top of the grid right now.
Posted by Hogssmellgood
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Posted on 9/2/24 at 1:06 pm to
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But on is complaining about McLaren and how they are treating Lando… trying to protect his fellow Brit

Don’t know if there’s a more insufferable commentator than him… well besides Danica


I mean, he's right. They've thrown away 10 points in the WDC because of their strategy. It's even more laughable that, after telling him in Hungary that he would need Oscar if he wanted to win the championship, that they didn't swap positions at the end. There's no way that RB lets Checo finish ahead of Max in that same situation, or Mercedes if one of their drivers were in Lando's spot. It's not about McLaren mistreating Lando. It's about McLaren giving points away twice now when they have a shot at both championships.

If RB don't get their shite together, a WDC/WCC combo is absolutely possible but it's like McLaren don't realize it with their strategy.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
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Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:02 pm to
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If RB don't get their shite together, a WDC/WCC combo is absolutely possible but it's like McLaren don't realize it with their strategy.


There's talk they are going to start rolling back upgrades from the last few tracks. Theoretically the RB20 is the fastest car on the track right now, but it doesn't matter because the balance between the front and rear is fricked. The talk is they are going to sacrifice some of the speed to try and get that balance back and make the car drivable.

We'll see.
Posted by Core
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:21 pm to
Lando can’t keep the lead after the first lap against anyone. He’s making it tough for McLaren.
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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Posted on 9/2/24 at 4:25 pm to
I was on the track after the race yesterday. It took 3 minutes to get on the track and over an hour to get off it. Just stuck standing there in a pile of people sweating and stinking around you.
This post was edited on 9/2/24 at 5:51 pm
Posted by Lsut81
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Posted on 9/2/24 at 4:48 pm to
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It's even more laughable that, after telling him in Hungary that he would need Oscar if he wanted to win the championship, that they didn't swap positions at the end.


Why would they? Lando couldn’t even hold first place after 4 turns.

That’s on him. It’s not like he was in first, they swapped bc of a pit or cover off, and then needed to give place back at the end.

Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 9/2/24 at 5:44 pm to
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Why would they? Lando couldn’t even hold first place after 4 turns.


Because Lando is in the WDC hunt, and Oscar is not. Simple.
Posted by Lsut81
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Posted on 9/2/24 at 5:51 pm to
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Because Lando is in the WDC hunt, and Oscar is not. Simple.


Well Lando should drive like it… what was that, the 4th pole he’s had and not been in 1st after the first lap?

If the team wants to play the Hamilton/Bottas, Max/Checo, etc.. and have points gifted to Lando when it wasn’t team orders that screwed things up, then they should come out and make a statement that Lando is the number one and Piastri is number two.
Posted by North Dallas Tiger
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Posted on 9/2/24 at 5:57 pm to
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they should come out and make a statement that Lando is the number one and Piastri is number two
Yep, and I think this is the right move. Go for the most constructors' points and let the drivers fight it out next season.

I think Piastri would probably win the battle with the right strategist in place. That kid is the future.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 9/2/24 at 6:12 pm to
Leo knows the chick is the 3rd wheel

Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
84986 posts
Posted on 9/2/24 at 6:28 pm to
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think Piastri would probably win the battle with the right strategist in place. That kid is the future.


Agree… he’s ice cold and quiet.

Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
near the Apple spaceship
Member since Nov 2012
7366 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 12:12 pm to
Adrian Newey to Aston Martin announcement imminent...

autosport.com/f1/news/neweys-move-to-aston-martin-set-to-be-made-official/10650943/


I'm gonna say it one more time. I can't believe Aramco, Honda, and now Newey would agree to join Aston Martin if one seat is guaranteed to Lance for 2026 onward. I guess we'll see what happens in 2026...
Posted by TigerFanatic99
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Member since Jan 2007
35891 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 12:20 pm to
The minute it is officially announced, Red Bull needs to immediately remove him from his Supercar project.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 12:34 pm to
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I mean, he's right. They've thrown away 10 points in the WDC because of their strategy. It's even more laughable that, after telling him in Hungary that he would need Oscar if he wanted to win the championship, that they didn't swap positions at the end. There's no way that RB lets Checo finish ahead of Max in that same situation, or Mercedes if one of their drivers were in Lando's spot. It's not about McLaren mistreating Lando. It's about McLaren giving points away twice now when they have a shot at both championships.

If RB don't get their shite together, a WDC/WCC combo is absolutely possible but it's like McLaren don't realize it with their strategy.


I mean Lando didn't deserve the win. They have to factor in keeping Oscar happy too. If Lando had actually been battling him at some point I can see them having them swap places, but as the race played out, Oscar was just better the entire race.

I'm a fan of a team not having a clear #1 driver and I think McClaren is at that point right now. If you could take one driver going forward between Lando and Oscar, who would it be? I don't think many people would choose Lando. That's not a knock on him, it's just that Piastri looks like he could end up being the best driver on the grid. I don't think they can afford to piss him off this early on and give his clear cut victories away like he's Bottas. Piastri isn't trying to be Bottas, he's trying to be Hamilton.
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 3:06 pm to
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I mean Lando didn't deserve the win. They have to factor in keeping Oscar happy too. If Lando had actually been battling him at some point I can see them having them swap places, but as the race played out, Oscar was just better the entire race.

I disagree. At Hungary Lando was faster and should have taken the win. The team made what they thought was the better team decision pittting Lando first, creating an awkward situation for Lando because he was definitely faster than Oscar. But ultimately Lando did the team thing (although many would agree that McLaren should have already been favoring Lando for the WDC), and at Monza Oscar should have done the team thing and swapped with Lando.


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I'm a fan of a team not having a clear #1 driver and I think McClaren is at that point right now. If you could take one driver going forward between Lando and Oscar, who would it be?

At the start of the season the McLaren drivers are equal. But Lando created a significant gap to Oscar and it's been obvious for a couple of months now that Red Bull is vulnerable in both the WDC and WCC. I'm in the camp that Lando should have been the clear #1 since at least Hungary.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 5:25 pm to
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Well Lando should drive like it… what was that, the 4th pole he’s had and not been in 1st after the first lap?

He was doing fine, and obviously didn’t expect his teammate to pull a move like that.
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 5:32 pm to
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He was doing fine, and obviously didn’t expect his teammate to pull a move like that.


Papaya rules bro.

Posted by theone
LSU
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 5:36 pm to
Is Ferrari going to catch RBR too? 39 points back.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
84986 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 5:38 pm to
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The team made what they thought was the better team decision pittting Lando first, creating an awkward situation for Lando because he was definitely faster than Oscar.


Don't disagree, but the team made the decision and stated they were doing that to cover off Hamilton or Russel (don't remember who it was) and then subsequently waited way too long to pit Oscar.

They are the ones that screwed the pooch and rightfully told Lando to make it right.

Again, if Mclaren doesn't want them racing and want to baby Lando, then they need to come out and state it and set the expectation from the start.

Them swapping doesn't impact that Constructors points for the team and unless they are going to make Lando number 1 to keep him happy and try to retain him, him winning the driver's shouldn't be a priority for the team.
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