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re: 2023 Formula 1 season Thread

Posted on 3/7/23 at 10:05 am to
Posted by billjamin
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 10:05 am to
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ow fast they can stop is probably more impressive than how fast they can go.

I highly recommend anyone going to COTA watch them run through 4-9.
Posted by MSTiger33
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 10:08 am to
Do you think those folks would let me tie up a ‘93 bass tracker to their yacht?
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 10:21 am to
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Did y'all sneak booze in student section style or what?


We did not.
Posted by OU Guy
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 12:29 pm to
F1 opened its season on par with last year averaging 1.3M for the Bahrain Grand Prix. FWIW, last year's season started a couple of weeks later.

Last year a 10:54A ET start averaged 1.353M viewers. This year it was a 9:52A ET start that averaged 1.318M.

Adam Stern:

@ESPN got 1.318 million for Sunday's F1 opener, down slightly from 1.353 million last year.
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 12:34 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 12:36 pm to
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@ESPN got 1.318 million for Sunday's F1 opener, down slightly from 1.353 million last year.


It's all over, the bubble burst, time to lower ticket prices.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 12:49 pm to
Lol. Hey, they lost way less viewers than nascar did. So in that regard they gained.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 12:53 pm to
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How fast they can stop is probably more impressive than how fast they can go.
That tends to be the response of first timers driving them as well.



The "braking forces" in an F1 car by letting off the gas is greater than those generated by your average sedan when slamming on the brakes.
Posted by 225rumpshaker
Texas
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 1:40 pm to
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The "braking forces" in an F1 car by letting off the gas is greater than those generated by your average sedan when slamming on the brakes.
Thats nuts

Edit: I can’t imagine the little Asian lady in my subdivision who always slams on her brakes doing it in a F1 car, she might just fly out of it
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 1:42 pm
Posted by Jor Jor The Dinosaur
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 2:00 pm to
Not that nuts when considering the energy recovery for the MGU-K.

Similar to how I can drive around town with one pedal in my Tesla, the regenerative braking creates a good amount of resistance (obviously far more forceful for an F1 car).
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 2:26 pm to
So three-day passes, even for grandstands, at the Spanish GP are just as cheap and in many cases cheaper than tickets for the race alone. Am I missing something here? I'm looking at purchasing through StubHub.

I might just purchase three-day passes. It's cheaper to get more. I don't get it.

For instance, not including StubHub's fees and other bullshite, I can get two tickets to Grandstand N for $400/ticket for a three-day pass. The same ticket is $752 for race-day only.

Seems fishy.
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 2:32 pm
Posted by YOURADHERE
Member since Dec 2006
8497 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 2:55 pm to
Not that fishy really, you get a ton of people that only care about attending the race only, so that's probably someone trying to fish for a sucker willing to pay more for a Sunday-only ticket. Once you sell off the Sunday ticket then Friday/Saturday are practically worthless. We skipped out Friday at COTA and I couldn't give my ticket away, meanwhile come Sunday morning similar race tickets were selling for double what we paid for the whole weekend pass.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78305 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 2:55 pm to
While same grandstand are they the same row?

Higher rows can bring multiples of lower rows.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
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38283 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 3:15 pm to
The F1 site only sells 3 day passes. People are trying to go to quali and make back all their money on the race ticket.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28510 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 3:23 pm to
Just bought muh tickets
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
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38283 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 3:51 pm to
Enjoy! We enjoyed Barcelona and the reace despite the bus back shitshow. It was really fun to watch the race with people from so many countries.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28510 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 4:04 pm to
I’m sure it will be a shitshow getting there and back. What do you recommend regarding that?
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
17970 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 4:10 pm to
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Charles has already taken 2/2 of each. If he takes any more, he’ll have to take a 10-place penalty (per component).

This is the most Ferrari thing i've read in a while.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28510 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 4:12 pm to
Would the penalty be for a single race or is it cumulative, meaning, for example, if he comes in third in the overall points standings he would be dropped to 13th (if he only takes one of the components)?
Posted by barry
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 4:14 pm to
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Would the penalty be for a single race or is it cumulative, meaning, for example, if he comes in third in the overall points standings he would be dropped to 13th (if he only takes one of the components)?


These penalties are tallied before each race based on paperwork submitted by the teams and you move back that many places from your qualifying spot. There is a maximum of 20 places(in theory its more), so many teams try to strategically stack penalties for replacement parts because you can only start dead last at worst.
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 4:15 pm
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
17970 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 4:16 pm to
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Would the penalty be for a single race or is it cumulative, meaning, for example, if he comes in third in the overall points standings he would be dropped to 13th (if he only takes one of the components)?

For this instance only he would get a 10 place grid penalty for the start of the race he took the new part. Meaning if he qualified 3rd, he would start the race 13th.

But this is F1 and it's never quite that simple. Teams start stacking penalties and it gets super convoluted. It shouldn't be that bad this early in the season but later the gamesmanship of it can be hard to follow and make little to no sense.

ETA this is also Ferrari, so expect whatever they do to absolutely make no sense.
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 4:17 pm
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