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re: 2023 Formula 1 season Thread
Posted on 4/2/23 at 10:10 am to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Posted on 4/2/23 at 10:10 am to TouchedTheAxeIn82
I like Alonso so I'm glad he kept his podium but if sainz had knocked Hamilton or Max out i would be screaming like a bitch about conspiracies and an insane decision to restore his podium because I'm a raging sports hypocrite.
You can't pretend the start just never happened. Sainz caused it and should have been penalized but the field should be the order at the next loop then yellow or vsc or whatever.
You can't pretend the start just never happened. Sainz caused it and should have been penalized but the field should be the order at the next loop then yellow or vsc or whatever.
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Posted on 4/2/23 at 10:28 am to UncleFestersLegs
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I like Alonso so I'm glad he kept his podium but if sainz had knocked Hamilton or Max out i would be screaming like a bitch about conspiracies and an insane decision to restore his podium because I'm a raging sports hypocrite.
Self-awareness is always a good thing.
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You can't pretend the start just never happened. Sainz caused it and should have been penalized but the field should be the order at the next loop then yellow or vsc or whatever.
Oh I agree. They should have at least waited until everyone passed the next timing line before calling a red flag (apparently some cars passed it and some did not). Sometimes you have to wave a red flag immediately because of dangerous conditions, but that's not what happened here. They did it for entertainment reasons, so they could have waited a few more seconds. So Hulk and Yuki ended up getting hosed and Alonso saved.
Posted on 4/2/23 at 10:46 am to sorantable
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Something I’ve realized this season is that Mick Schumacher was so bad, he made K-Mag look good.
KMag is up 2-1 over his teammate in races this year and scored the team's first points. It's not his fault his team pitted him a lap before a red flag.
Posted on 4/2/23 at 10:52 am to 1999
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| Reduced Gap? This weekend Red Bull lost 0.2-0.3s to the upper cluster (AM, FER, MERC) According to an opposing team's engineer this was due to a compromised set-up and the engine power being reduced by 10hp This is not a "real" drop in pace
Posted on 4/2/23 at 10:55 am to 1999
A compromised setup and reduced power seems to be Ferraris plan this year as well
Posted on 4/2/23 at 10:59 am to UncleFestersLegs
Race was wild. Very entertaining. Just wish the race would’ve finished with actual racing other than dodgy FIA decisions. Completely don’t get why Sainz was awarded the 5 sec. penalty if the lap didn’t count. I guess just due to fact he still caused a crash and some punishment was necessary
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Posted on 4/2/23 at 11:00 am to 1999
Mag caused all that late race drama by hitting the wall.
F1 is becomikg Nascar with their decisions and clown show ending.
Hiw much did Mag cost Haas in destroyed car vs Hul was going to finish 9th but got 7th - and how much dollar gain is those 2 spots worth at end if year payout? Is the gain more than cost of Mag car wreck cost?
F1 shoukd have called the race after that wreckfest last restart. What did they think would happen. At that point of race every position gained in first 2 corners was going to be finish order so of course drivers were going to wreck each other. Reminds me of COTA Nascar restarts. And how much did that last restart cost owners in wrecked cars? It might be $50m?
F1 is becomikg Nascar with their decisions and clown show ending.
Hiw much did Mag cost Haas in destroyed car vs Hul was going to finish 9th but got 7th - and how much dollar gain is those 2 spots worth at end if year payout? Is the gain more than cost of Mag car wreck cost?
F1 shoukd have called the race after that wreckfest last restart. What did they think would happen. At that point of race every position gained in first 2 corners was going to be finish order so of course drivers were going to wreck each other. Reminds me of COTA Nascar restarts. And how much did that last restart cost owners in wrecked cars? It might be $50m?
Posted on 4/2/23 at 11:02 am to tigerfan24736
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Race was wild. Very entertaining. Just wish the race would’ve finished with actual racing other than dodgy FIA decisions. Completely don’t get why Sainz was awarded the 5 sec. Penalty if the lap didn’t count. I guess just due to fact he still caused a crash and some punishment was necessar.
If they didn’t penalize Saintz then all drivers would wreck others in late race red restarts knowing they keep their spot
Posted on 4/2/23 at 11:02 am to Drewbie
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It's not his fault his team pitted him a lap before a red flag.
It was his fault he smashed into a wall though.
Posted on 4/2/23 at 11:02 am to OU Guy
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F1 should have called the race after that wreckfest last restart. What did they think would happen.
It should have ended under yellow and only the absurd would have howled. Common sense, end under yellow and everyone goes home.
Posted on 4/2/23 at 11:07 am to nola tiger lsu
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It should have ended under yellow and only the absurd would have howled. Common sense, end under yellow and everyone goes home.
Agree. It helped HUL but still, the ending reminded me of Nascar type stuff and I hope F1isn’t trying to copy them. It cost owners a big bill to have that last restart.
Posted on 4/2/23 at 11:10 am to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
quote:So he went from a guaranteed zero points to a guaranteed zero points.
It was his fault he smashed into a wall though.
Seems like a tad bit of an overreaction to insinuate his first misstep of the year 3 races in indicates he only appeared good because of Mick. Especially considering he was the better Haas driver the last two races.
This post was edited on 4/2/23 at 11:22 am
Posted on 4/2/23 at 11:22 am to Drewbie
Just finished the replay. Eff ESPN. Went to commercial at lap 56. Came back and the race was rolling restart on lap 58. The missed the entire standing restart, had no clue what happened to those two laps or why Sainz was given a 5 second penalty.
Posted on 4/2/23 at 11:56 am to TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Oh I agree. They should have at least waited until everyone passed the next timing line before calling a red flag (apparently some cars passed it and some did not). Sometimes you have to wave a red flag immediately because of dangerous conditions, but that's not what happened here.
Nascar does this all the time as well. Throwing the red flag a few seconds later would have had zero impact on safety and we wouldn't have had 45 minutes of bullshite.
btw-FIA threw out Haas' protest because the race director said he didn't have time to follow the rules.
Obviously that is not how they worded it, but that is what he claimed. Which is also bullshite because they sat around for almost an hour while the RD and stewards apparently had their thumbs up their arse.
Posted on 4/2/23 at 12:04 pm to GEAUXLPOST
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Just finished the replay. Eff ESPN. Went to commercial at lap 56. Came back and the race was rolling restart on lap 58. The missed the entire standing restart, had no clue what happened to those two laps or why Sainz was given a 5 second penalty.
You missed the bs, if you wanted to experience all that you could have last night. You're way better off though.
Posted on 4/2/23 at 12:07 pm to BuckyCheese
Im not sure I have the mental capacity to follow everything, so Ill ask the smarter people in this thread:
If the FIA needs to use timing markers, could they have used the last timing marker and assess Sainz penalty? That would reorder the starting grid for the last restart and finish. Drivers jocking for position within 5 seconds of another under rolling start is just bizarre
If the FIA needs to use timing markers, could they have used the last timing marker and assess Sainz penalty? That would reorder the starting grid for the last restart and finish. Drivers jocking for position within 5 seconds of another under rolling start is just bizarre
Posted on 4/2/23 at 12:21 pm to AutoYes_Clown
Did the race director not think a standing restart with 2 laps left would be a clusterfrick, seems like they should have just ended under yellow instead of trying to get Hamilton a win
Posted on 4/2/23 at 12:38 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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It was his fault he smashed into a wall though.
Posted on 4/2/23 at 2:06 pm to BottomlandBrew
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What a clusterfrick of a "race." It all started with that first red flag, which robbed us of pit strategy. 2nd red flag was total bullshite. Sometimes a race ends under yellow, and F1 needs to be okay with that.
Same feeling. Such a cheap attempt at drama.
Lol at Alonso getting special treatment two weeks in a row, all the cars were well on their way.
Posted on 4/2/23 at 2:10 pm to TigerAlumni2010
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seems like they should have just ended under yellow instead of trying to get someone besides RBR a win
FIFY
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