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re: 2022 NASCAR Season Thread - 2022-23 Offseason
Posted on 10/11/22 at 5:26 pm to SPEEDY
Posted on 10/11/22 at 5:26 pm to SPEEDY
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And Custer and his crew chief get utterly slammed.
As they should, he basically brake checked the 2 cars behind him. It's one thing to do it at 60 mph on the highway, it's another thing to do it in a Nascar race.
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Says NASCAR would have had an even stronger reaction if this was the reason Briscoe advanced to Round 3 (but in their view, it was not)
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Scott Miller says the radio instructions to Custer "could not even be construed as anything else." Says Custer blatantly pulled over and changed finishing order on last lap.
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Following up on this last point, NASCAR indicates they believe Custer actions gave Briscoe two points/positions. He made it by two points but had the tiebreaker over Larson, so it would have had to be three points for the penalty to escalate (Iike Briscoe possible removal).
DOES NOT COMPUTE
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Scott Miller says NASCAR did not consider removing Chase Briscoe from the playoffs in part because no one ever told him his teammates would help or something along those lines. So it wasn't coordinated, NASCAR feels.
Doesn't make a god damn bit of difference, ask Martin Truex
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Posted on 10/11/22 at 5:35 pm to Hurricane Mike
Penske has to be a favorite for getting both cars into the Final Four. Las Vegas and Martinsville are historically great tracks for them.
Posted on 10/11/22 at 5:57 pm to Hurricane Mike
Didn’t he pass 2 cars plus Custer? Thats 3 and did change Chase results. Also, he was making a too fast move with corner coming up had Custer not slowed cars down he likely misses corner and either wrecks or overshoots. Custer slowing down allowed him to slow down enough to make corner on outside, he was coming in way too hot.
This post was edited on 10/11/22 at 6:10 pm
Posted on 10/11/22 at 6:06 pm to OU Guy
Martinsville 2020 playoffs no fine
Posted on 10/11/22 at 6:53 pm to OU Guy
Yeah, I personally think this penalty is too heavy and is hypocritical. I really don’t find what Custer did to be that egregious, but even if one does, it isn’t like this kind of thing is new and yet many other incidents like this have happened without penalty.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 6:28 am to MikeHoncho47
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Personally I can see Gibbs becoming the next Childress or Roush
He also let Logano go several years ago.
I’ve been watching (usually a recording later in the day admittedly) every race for many years.
But they are losing me. This Custer thing is just more evidence of their utter hypocrisy. The statement about “not influencing the outcome” is utter bullshite.
They don’t want certain outcomes to be influenced.
They use their and/or clause to give Byron points back because of bias. Then that backfires on them with Bell winning and Larson getting bumped.
They throw a caution for no reason to get excitement and it backfires because golden boy doesn’t win and Larson is eliminated.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 7:14 am to InkStainedWretch
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And Custer and his crew chief get utterly slammed.
Two weeks in a row SHR gets slammed by Nascar. Tony must have done sumthing to piss off NASCAR.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 7:19 am to SPEEDY
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Curious to know what is the difference between this and other teammate assist situations we’ve seen that were ruled OK (like Elliott slowing down in front of Harvick for Larson to win Bristol)
THANK YOU!
This post was edited on 10/12/22 at 7:31 am
Posted on 10/12/22 at 8:12 am to Tigertown in ATL
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But they are losing me. This Custer thing is just more evidence of their utter hypocrisy. The statement about “not influencing the outcome” is utter bullshite. They don’t want certain outcomes to be influenced. They use their and/or clause to give Byron points back because of bias. Then that backfires on them with Bell winning and Larson getting bumped. They throw a caution for no reason to get excitement and it backfires because golden boy doesn’t win and Larson is eliminated.
I agree that Custer allowed him to pass 3 cars and it did influance Larson getting left out.
The Byron deal was not nascar they gave him poimts fine - it was the panel who overuled them.
Your last statement is only half true. If they wanted Chase to win they don’t throw caution. They do like to throw late flags for spice and should fine themselves for that. And they are wromg Custers actions allowed his teamate to pass 3 cars not 2, so it did change the chase.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 8:15 am to OU Guy
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I agree that Custer allowed him to pass 3 cars and it did influance Larson getting left out.
At the time of the incident, Briscoe's position in the field had him tied with Larson and Briscoe held the tie breaker over Larson. What Custer did had zero influence on Briscoe transferring to the next round. All it did was give him a bit of a cushion.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 8:15 am to Lonnie Utah
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Curious to know what is the difference between this and other teammate assist situations we’ve seen that were ruled OK (like Elliott slowing down in front of Harvick for Larson to win Bristol) THANK YOU!
Because Chase did it on his own and wasn’t intrstructed to do it. Same as Hamlin stalking Chastain for half a race this year, if drivers do it on their own its ok to a point (but nascar did tell Hamlin to stop it and yet he kept on with no penalty). If the crew orchestrates it then nascar penalizes. Custer was coached to do it.
If nascar was going to fine drivers taking actions on their own then they would have fined Reddick for taking out Chase right?
Some of you have a vendetta against Chase but only when it fits your narrative.
Nascar threw a flag that cost Chase the race
Nascar did not fine Reddick for taking out Chase
I do agree the sign was there way before and could have been left it was out of groove. Nascar was not trying to help Chase as some here think he gets extra treatment - they did it to see carnage. And they got carnage. For that nascar was wrong. But all the Chase conspiracy theories are easily destroyed. They sire didn’t throw falg to help Chase get your stories straight.
This post was edited on 10/12/22 at 8:24 am
Posted on 10/12/22 at 8:31 am to OU Guy
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Because Chase did it on his own and wasn’t intrstructed to do it
Whatever dude.
And Nascar throwing a caution that cost chase the race? Please. He was already on to the next round and we all know that's all that matters.
As for Denny and Chastain, that did not have direct implications for advancing to the next round of the playoffs. Both drivers were in at that point. Both incidents being compared here were in elimination races. So apples to oranges.
And don't get it twisted. I'm not throwing shade directly at Chase here. I'm throwing it at Nascar and their hypocrisy at how they enforce their "rules". But if you asked me if that incident was one of the reasons I don't like the kid, I'd say yes (because I think he gets unfair/favorable treatment compared to the rest of the drivers).
This post was edited on 10/12/22 at 8:43 am
Posted on 10/12/22 at 8:42 am to Lonnie Utah
Man Nascar has taken a lot of Ls this year.
50 points is a bit much to me. I'd maybe go 10.
50 points is a bit much to me. I'd maybe go 10.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 8:45 am to jfan244888
Roger Goodell taking over NASCAR this year?
Posted on 10/12/22 at 9:18 am to Lonnie Utah
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Lonnie Utah
Chase lives rent free in your head 24/7, baw.
Melt.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 9:29 am to Lonnie Utah
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I think he gets unfair/favorable treatment compared to the rest of the drivers
I don't think its really even debatable at this point, he does. The drivers won't say it but many have insinuated it.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 9:30 am to SteelerBravesDawg
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Chase lives rent free in your head 24/7, baw.
Whatever. This is the first time I've posted in this thread in WEEKS. Weeks is not 24/7....
Oh and,
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And don't get it twisted. I'm not throwing shade directly at Chase here. I'm throwing it at Nascar and their hypocrisy at how they enforce their "rules".
But I guess I shouldn't be surprised that anyone who likes Chase would find 4th grade level reading comprehension pretty difficult...
Posted on 10/12/22 at 9:31 am to TrussvilleTide
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I don't think its really even debatable at this point, he does. The drivers won't say it but many have insinuated it.
My point 100%.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 9:49 am to Lonnie Utah
Posting this here for posterity.
Radioactive Bristol 2021. "Where's the #5 at? I'll help him out."
Even the spotter called what the #5 was doing. Nascar is full of $#!+ when it says "What the #9 did last year was different."
At this point, if I'm Tony Stewart, I put a bounty on the HMS cars with my drivers. What do they have to lose at this point? Nascar had already handed them their @$$.
Radioactive Bristol 2021. "Where's the #5 at? I'll help him out."
Even the spotter called what the #5 was doing. Nascar is full of $#!+ when it says "What the #9 did last year was different."
At this point, if I'm Tony Stewart, I put a bounty on the HMS cars with my drivers. What do they have to lose at this point? Nascar had already handed them their @$$.
This post was edited on 10/12/22 at 9:55 am
Posted on 10/12/22 at 10:34 am to Lonnie Utah
One thing we agree on is nascar being all over the map. Throwing flag to spice up race they should penalize themselves. But all thos Chase getting special treatment stuff needs to stop. He gets no more than other top drivers. Again, if they were helping him they do not throw flag. That flag cost him the race. It cost Larson the chase.
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