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re: 2022 Formula 1 Season Thread

Posted on 6/17/22 at 4:20 pm to
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 6/17/22 at 4:20 pm to
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Announced they are stopping investment in the car to focus on 2023.


No, they didn't.

They are putting the one big upgrade on the car next month and then focusing on next year. They will still look to improve the upgraded car with minor parts.

It sounds as if the upgrade will be a B spec as it will look different.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 4:42 pm to
rain 30 minutes out fighting tiger
Posted by saintforlife1
Member since Jul 2012
1391 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 4:44 pm to
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Announced they are stopping investment in the car to focus on 2023.

Should Mercedes do the same? With FIA clamping down hard on the bouncing, the Mercs will have to run 3" Rough Country lift kits for the rest of the season. They will probably drop out of the Top 10 after Canada when FIA has said they will start disqualifying cars.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112939 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 4:44 pm to
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It used to be like that, but not anymore
Well shite, I think I'm gonna cancel then, probably not for me at this time.
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If you're moderately tech savvy, you can use this: F1 viewer
Appreciate the link. Any time I see a Github link I get mad cause I know it's something cool but I'm too dumb to figure out to use it.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 4:48 pm to
My IPTV sub has all the helmet cams if you want something that works on TV. Not picture in picture though.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78947 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 4:58 pm to
Drips
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 5:58 pm to
Considering this porpoising situation and the races to date, what are everyone’s thoughts on the 2022 formula?
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 6:15 pm to
I think they are fine and frankly don't give a shite about the porpoising "issues".

It's for the teams to figure out.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85384 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 7:29 pm to
Leclerc taking new PU and 10 place penalty….

RB should extend the points advantage.
Posted by pjab
Member since Mar 2016
5768 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:22 pm to
If you are RB, do you also take a new PU and penalty?

RB has a 2 podium spots this race in the bag if they don’t. They also could do an overcut and race Ferrari from the middle of the pack to not have to play catch up when they have an Inevitable PU penalty.
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
369 Cardboard Box Lane
Member since Nov 2019
14256 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:27 pm to
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If you are RB, do you also take a new PU and penalty?


Why would you do that when you have a favorable track for max points.
Posted by TheArrogantCorndog
Highland Rd
Member since Sep 2009
15990 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 9:04 pm to
No chance you do that

Their PUs may last one more quali or 7 more races, only they can really judge that...take the points when you can get them and be happy your rival is on the back foot

If you noticed, LEC is still using an older turbo, because going beyond turbo allocation is another penalty... as well as exhaust systems (8)... Alpine (particularly Alonso) is close to that number already

Lewis showed last year that the best time to take the PU penalty is during a sprint weekend... nobody is going to forget that performance...so unless your hands are tied, you take it then

What I find interesting is how wound up a lot of these PUs are... RBR and Ferrari... like rubberbands just waiting to snap... For all the shite we gave Merc PUs during the first race, we arent seeing those PUs detonate at the same rate as the others... just something to think about
Posted by pjab
Member since Mar 2016
5768 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 9:23 pm to
It’s a two team race. Mercedes is quietly hanging in there for constructors championship but they are about to get neutered. There’s a good chance that Ferrari is going to be right behind RB regardless. RB takes the penalty, still qualifies Ahead of Ferrari and they both finish at the top of the field. The point differential is the same.
Posted by pjab
Member since Mar 2016
5768 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 9:28 pm to
Squeezing 1,000 hp out of anything is a remarkable thing. Doing it out of 1.6L is a whole ‘nother thing. They are wound tight but the build tolerances are there.

I find it funny with Ferrari street cars, 20k miles is a lot. That’s nothing for high performance Mercedes cars. Their reputations shine through even in F1.
Posted by TheArrogantCorndog
Highland Rd
Member since Sep 2009
15990 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 9:30 pm to
Why take it when you dont need it??

I understand the angle of points tally but we're at round 9 of 22... run those PUs as long as you can... dial them back a bit if you have to

Surely Ferrari will dial theirs back some so they dont take more penalties.. there is also the PU cost cap that comes into play... separate cost cap, but it's now a concern for Ferrari, and will definitely come into play towards the end of the season if nothing changes
Posted by TheArrogantCorndog
Highland Rd
Member since Sep 2009
15990 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 9:41 pm to
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They are wound tight but the build tolerances are there.


Are they though??? For Honda and Ferrari, it's looking like they're wound too tight... nuts and bolts and tolerances should be ok, so I kind of agree with you there

The question is whether their engines need to be tuned down a peg, while they hopefully make aerodynamic changes to reduce drag and make other aero adjustments for this new formula to find speed

We're really analyzing 2 brand new engine specs for this year (for RBR and Ferrari) and watching these teams learn the intricacies of their motors on the fly... these are 2 brand new PUs and we're watching as they figure out the kinks
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
369 Cardboard Box Lane
Member since Nov 2019
14256 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 9:55 pm to
No reason to drive through traffic if you don't have to.
Posted by TheArrogantCorndog
Highland Rd
Member since Sep 2009
15990 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 10:12 pm to
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No reason to drive through traffic if you don't have to.



Clint and Tony should have taken this advice
Posted by saintforlife1
Member since Jul 2012
1391 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 1:04 am to
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This post was edited on 6/18/22 at 1:05 pm
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16908 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 5:27 am to
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Leclerc taking new PU and 10 place penalty….
it looks like the penalty was for electronics so an engine penalty is almost a certainty at some point. I understand the need for cost control but 3 engines for over 20 races seems overly restrictiveto me
quote:

As a result, Leclerc is now certain to be hit by grid penalties further down the line for exceeding power unit components. Leclerc has already reached his maximum allocation of three turbocharges for the season, as well as two internal combustion engines, MGU-Hs and MGU-Ks. 
Ahead of FP1, the FIA announced that Leclerc had taken a new internal combustion engine, MGU-H, MGU-K and energy store.
Shortly after the second session, it was announced that Leclerc has also taken a new control electronics and thus will incur a 10-place grid penalty.

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